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Old 12-14-2017, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I don't think anyone has any doubt that the timing of reports of Moore's actions from 30 years ago were timed to disrupt the election. They could have been reported by the accuser's mother when they happened. Or any time when he was in line to become a judge. Or after he was seated. Or during the primary process. No-the info was brought out a few weeks before one of the most important Senate special elections in history. In a timeframe when it was virtually impossible for the Republican party to pull their nomination and have time to place someone else in that position (if it were even possible without a new primary). Seems obvious to anyone with a brain that this was orchestrated to happen at a time when it could do the maximum possible damage with little recourse. All the accusations may be revealed as fabrications today (or not), the yearbook signature might be exposed as counterfeit-doesn't matter. A Democrat, who had no chance in winning in a fair, balanced election, is now senator, and Moore's reputation is trashed.

Now-it seems pretty likely that the Franken "resignation movement" was a stage show again orchastrated to make it look like the Dems were on some moral high ground by calling for his resignation. If they encouraged him to step down-how could the Rs not do the same with Moore without a double standard?

So the question-now that the election is over...will the pressure remain on Franken to do the honorable thing and resign? Will the press continue to publish the stories of his harassment of women? Will the women in leadership positions express outrage and demand that this "abuser" resigns? Or will all of that suddenly die down? Will Franken's accusers just quietly go away? Was it all just a big show?

I'm already seeing posts by leftist friends on Facebook saying what a great guy and supporter of women Franken is. How what he did wasn't so bad, and how he deserves a second (3rd, 4th, 5th?) chance. About how his position shouldn't be given up...anymore.

 
Old 12-14-2017, 09:15 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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He's already resigned and a replacement appointed. What more do you want?
 
Old 12-14-2017, 09:16 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Originally Posted by Ringo1 View Post
He's already resigned and a replacement appointed. What more do you want?
He is still attending senate sessions.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...-at-senate-job
 
Old 12-14-2017, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Yeah, too late. The Lieutenant Governor has been appointed to replace him.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
I don't think anyone has any doubt that the timing of reports of Moore's actions from 30 years ago were timed to disrupt the election. They could have been reported by the accuser's mother when they happened. Or any time when he was in line to become a judge. Or after he was seated. Or during the primary process. No-the info was brought out a few weeks before one of the most important Senate special elections in history. In a timeframe when it was virtually impossible for the Republican party to pull their nomination and have time to place someone else in that position (if it were even possible without a new primary). Seems obvious to anyone with a brain that this was orchestrated to happen at a time when it could do the maximum possible damage with little recourse. All the accusations may be revealed as fabrications today (or not), the yearbook signature might be exposed as counterfeit-doesn't matter. A Democrat, who had no chance in winning in a fair, balanced election, is now senator, and Moore's reputation is trashed.

Now-it seems pretty likely that the Franken "resignation movement" was a stage show again orchastrated to make it look like the Dems were on some moral high ground by calling for his resignation. If they encouraged him to step down-how could the Rs not do the same with Moore without a double standard?

So the question-now that the election is over...will the pressure remain on Franken to do the honorable thing and resign? Will the press continue to publish the stories of his harassment of women? Will the women in leadership positions express outrage and demand that this "abuser" resigns? Or will all of that suddenly die down? Will Franken's accusers just quietly go away? Was it all just a big show?

I'm already seeing posts by leftist friends on Facebook saying what a great guy and supporter of women Franken is. How what he did wasn't so bad, and how he deserves a second (3rd, 4th, 5th?) chance. About how his position shouldn't be given up...anymore.
Ah, yes. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Get over it cupcake. What Franken did was not even in the same ballpark as that sick child molester that the GOP tried to put in office. Franken will be forgiven in time, but Moore will burn in political hell along with the rest of the GOP that thinks what he did is OK.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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He's already resigned and a replacement appointed. What more do you want?
No he hasn't. He announced his "intention" to resign "sometime" in the coming weeks.

Now, will he likely resign? Yes, he went too far in his announcement. Could he also "reevaluate" his decision? Yes, although the Minnesota Governor has him somewhat in a trick bag by announcing his replacement will be the current Lt. Gov. who happens to be a woman. Which is not official until she's sworn in.

The reality is that, like Conyers, had it not been a safe seat for, in this case, the Democrats he likely wouldn't have faced so much internal from colleagues pressure to resign.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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No he hasn't. He announced his "intention" to resign "sometime" in the coming weeks.

Now, will he likely resign? Yes, he went too far in his announcement. Could he also "reevaluate" his decision? Yes, although the Minnesota Governor has him somewhat in a trick bag by announcing his replacement will be the current Lt. Gov. who happens to be a woman.

The reality is that, like Conyers, had it not been a safe seat for, in this case, the Democrats he likely wouldn't have faced so much internal from colleagues pressure to resign.
Exactly-I researched that before starting the thread.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 09:26 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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He is still attending senate sessions.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...-at-senate-job
So isn't fat boy who has paid out $$$$$$ in taxpayer money.


Your point being?
 
Old 12-14-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Ah, yes. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Get over it cupcake. What Franken did was not even in the same ballpark as that sick child molester that the GOP tried to put in office. Franken will be forgiven in time, but Moore will burn in political hell along with the rest of the GOP that thinks what he did is OK.
So the show is underway already... That is exactly the kind of spin I'm NOW seeing on social media. He "wasn't so bad"..."deserves another chance"..."is a supporter of women". Yeah, he's right up there with rapist Bubba Clinton on that one, fine upstanding guy.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Exactly-I researched that before starting the thread.
My feeling is that he was a sacrificial lamb! Although they enjoyed getting Alabama; they have their sights set on a bigger target.
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