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Old 12-15-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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They seem to specialize in targeting the individual. (Alinksy rule: Pick a target it, isolate it, attack it, and destroy it (or something like that)).


However, what they cannot, yet, do is target entire groups and be able to do anything meaningful (In fact, their labeling of the white working class as "deplorables" was what hurt Hillary in 2016.)


If we try and have a guy fight the Deep State, like Roy Moore, Donald Trump, Sean Hannity, the enemy will try to pull out the all stops from sexual assault allegations to claims of tax fraud to claims of racism, etc, to try and destroy them and get people to back away from them and their cause.

Now they can use this, somewhat, against groups (like claiming American workers are "entitled" and "racist" against illegals and H1Bs) but these don't stick as well.

If we can get real diverse groups to act in unison, they will have a very hard time bringing the opposition to their Deep State agenda down. It's a lot harder to blackmail a large group of diverse people or get a label like "racist", "sexist", "pervert", "homophobe", "Islamophobe", "bigot", "xenophobe", etc to stick.
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Old 12-15-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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Because... calling white supremacists racists is now "blackmailing?" Sure it is. Snowflakes.

Suggestion - before whining about "the left," clear out the frauds in your own party, like Trump, people who supported Moore - which includes Trump, and so on.

As for the rest of the Deep State nonsense, nobody cares.
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Old 12-15-2017, 06:06 PM
 
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Because... calling white supremacists racists is now "blackmailing?" Sure it is. Snowflakes.

Suggestion - before whining about "the left," clear out the frauds in your own party, like Trump, people who supported Moore - which includes Trump, and so on.

As for the rest of the Deep State nonsense, nobody cares.
As far as the Republican Party in DC, other than a few holdouts like Cruz and Trump, it's really just a Uniparty in DC. The R and the D mean little difference other than the R will kill us slowly whereas the D will kill us quickly, but, in the end, same eventual end result.
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Old 12-15-2017, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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Take a good hard look folks. This is what the talkradio/foxnews 24/7 outrage machine has done to a huge swath of my parents' generation. Sad!
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Old 12-15-2017, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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They seem to specialize in targeting the individual. (Alinksy rule: Pick a target it, isolate it, attack it, and destroy it (or something like that)).
However, what they cannot, yet, do is target entire groups and be able to do anything meaningful (In fact, their labeling of the white working class as "deplorables" was what hurt Hillary in 2016.)
Oh you refer to the Donny 'Alinsky' Trump method of attack? Let's see, who did he "isolate and attack"?

Well, just to name a few--Little Marco, Lyin Ted Cruz, Crooked Hillary, Bob Corker, Jeff Sessions, Jeff Flake, Lindey Graham, John McCain, Bob Mueller, James Comey, Chuck Schumer, Liz Warren, Dean Heller, Lisa Murkowski, Ben Sasse, Meryl Streep, Mika Brzynski, Joe Scarborough, Imran Khan, Colin Kaepernick, Sadiq Khan, Mitch McConnell, Barak Obama, Rahm Emanuel, Nancy Pelosi, Paul Ryan... really way too many individuals to keep track of.

You mean like that?

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If we try and have a guy fight the Deep State, like Roy Moore, Donald Trump, Sean Hannity, the enemy will try to pull out the all stops from sexual assault allegations to claims of tax fraud to claims of racism, etc, to try and destroy them and get people to back away from them and their cause.
Too funny. Trump and Hannity are not 'soldiers fighting the Deep State' -- they are Keystone conspiracy mongers and Roy Moore is just a holy rolling pervert hypocrite. The Deep State--lol. Good one. Why didn't you throw in nutjob Alex Jones?

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Now they can use this, somewhat, against groups (like claiming American workers are "entitled" and "racist" against illegals and H1Bs) but these don't stick as well.
What does this even mean? It makes no sense whatsoever.

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If we can get real diverse groups to act in unison, they will have a very hard time bringing the opposition to their Deep State agenda down. It's a lot harder to blackmail a large group of diverse people or get a label like "racist", "sexist", "pervert", "homophobe", "Islamophobe", "bigot", "xenophobe", etc to stick
Yeah--you better put down the beer, get off the keyboard and get going on that master plan.
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Old 12-15-2017, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Because... calling white supremacists racists is now "blackmailing?" Sure it is. Snowflakes.

Suggestion - before whining about "the left," clear out the frauds in your own party, like Trump, people who supported Moore - which includes Trump, and so on.

As for the rest of the Deep State nonsense, nobody cares.
These aren't the droids you're looking for; move along!

YOU are a parrot, my friend.

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As far as the Republican Party in DC, other than a few holdouts like Cruz and Trump, it's really just a Uniparty in DC. The R and the D mean little difference other than the R will kill us slowly whereas the D will kill us quickly, but, in the end, same eventual end result.
THAT is exactly correct! The one thing the establishment Dems and pubs agree on is they hate Trump, because Trump is dangerous to their agenda; which is to help themselves, pretending to help this country. The last 16 years proves that both parties are just two sides of the same damn corrupt coin.
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Old 12-15-2017, 07:06 PM
 
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Good information OP

There are reports of the lawyer Lisa Bloom recruiting women and paying them to make claims against Trump. Money has changed hands.

Last edited by phma; 12-15-2017 at 07:16 PM..
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Old 12-15-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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Take a good hard look folks. This is what the talkradio/foxnews 24/7 outrage machine has done to a huge swath of my parents' generation. Sad!
I'm 28.
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Old 12-15-2017, 07:13 PM
 
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Oh you refer to the Donny 'Alinsky' Trump method of attack? Let's see, who did he "isolate and attack"?

Well, just to name a few--Little Marco, Lyin Ted Cruz, Crooked Hillary, Bob Corker, Jeff Sessions, Jeff Flake, Lindey Graham, John McCain, Bob Mueller, James Comey, Chuck Schumer, Liz Warren, Dean Heller, Lisa Murkowski, Ben Sasse, Meryl Streep, Mika Brzynski, Joe Scarborough, Imran Khan, Colin Kaepernick, Sadiq Khan, Mitch McConnell, Barak Obama, Rahm Emanuel, Nancy Pelosi, Paul Ryan... really way too many individuals to keep track of.

You mean like that?



Too funny. Trump and Hannity are not 'soldiers fighting the Deep State' -- they are Keystone conspiracy mongers and Roy Moore is just a holy rolling pervert hypocrite. The Deep State--lol. Good one. Why didn't you throw in nutjob Alex Jones?



What does this even mean? It makes no sense whatsoever.



Yeah--you better put down the beer, get off the keyboard and get going on that master plan.
Trump's antics lost him my vote in the general. I don't fully trust him yet (still waiting to see what he'll do when the RINOs put an Amnesty bill before him, as him vetoing it (or not) is a likely make or break for his presidency, if the Left doesn't just stage a big coup and outlaw elections, a distinct possibility they have been acting the past 9 years.
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Old 12-15-2017, 07:37 PM
 
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I'm 28.
Interesting interaction.

Age group was attacked and the attack was defeated by an individual outside the age group.

Fits with the hard to make it stick against a group. Should have made the attack against the messenger like we so often see when someone post a thread.
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