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Old 12-20-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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Most millennials would rather we move to a system with more social protections and programs, like what is found in many developed nations in the world. And I would like to see that, as well.

These systems are not socialism, either.
you mean they want the govt to "parent" them after they leave the house
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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Where do YOU see '70's style inflation?
Everything from higher prices at the grocery for items that at the same time have reduced their contents anywhere from 25% to 33%, to gasoline (up 10% this year), to health insurance premiums and the cost of medical care. The 10% annual inflation rate analysis using the 1980-method CPI is pretty much what I'm seeing.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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you mean they want the govt to "parent" them after they leave the house
Nah, that is incorrect.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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Everything from higher prices at the grocery for items that at the same time have reduced their contents anywhere from 25% to 33%, to gasoline (up 10% this year), to health insurance premiums and the cost of medical care. The 10% annual inflation rate analysis using the 1980-method CPI is pretty much what I'm seeing.
Not general though. Some items. The only place I see it is in fast food. What was $3 is now $6.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUSR...view=pct_3mths

Oil/gas so low as to be almost unbelievable. Especially as compared to the '70's.

Medical care has been rising for a very long time now. Nothing to with the crash or QE.

10% for some items for sure. Housing in some locales for sure. Stock equities for sure. Not general though.

And the reasons are that the general demands are still not so robust. And energy is so down. Employment is continually improving, and demands will eventually catch up. One big hedge has been online shopping. So many assorted things I buy so much cheaper, especially in bulk. And along with that money savings - time and energy savings.

10% is not so far off. I don't know your age or experience, but up to now this is nothing like the '70's, early '80's.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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Medical care has been rising for a very long time now. Nothing to with the crash or QE.
hoping I recall right, but I thought you mentioned you were a physician or something similar, hoping to get insight but here is my observation of "medical cost"

the cost isn't really "higher" than 50 years ago, at least not for the things that were performed 50 years ago. like the 2017 car has more "features" than the 1960 car, the price that goes into the "features" add up.

cost of medical treatment for the same disease/disorder hasn't changed if you exclude "new" techniques/drugs/etc

but there are new treatments because people want a 90-99%% success rate and not 70-80%... that push for the last 10-20% is what drives cost up because... well, things are already "efficient" and to push it more you get less return in general

add in costs for lawsuit/liability prevention, medical costs are higher

but education is the same, we try to cram more information into people of the same age, again back to less return on efficiency after hitting a certain point. to make education more affordable, people need to expect to learn what they did back in 1960 then spend decades learning new stuff on the job, or spend longer time in school and enter the work force at an older age. right now, they want to cram everything in and get out of college at 22, and get for a job that in 1960 would have the knowledge of a masters/Phd or someone with 5 years of work experience. the general science classes teach what the PhDs were learning about in 1960 from Dna to electronics to chemical synthetics. we get all that in high school today
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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I remember that from Sunday School, the part in the Bible where Jesus says, "F*** the children and those worthless poor people."
Can't rep you again.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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They criticize lefties for abusing the term "fascist" but then turn around and misuse the hell out of terms like "Marxist" and "Stalinist". Gay marriage and Israel is some sort of Stalinist-Leninist agenda to them, even though if they actually did research they would know that the USSR hated gays and persecuted Jewish people but I guess 10 minutes of actual research is too much work...
Both sides greatly misuse terms. Like when people call this a Christian nation but it does the exact opposite of Christ.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:57 PM
 
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I met my wife in 2006 and got married the same year, she hasn't worked a day since and we were only 21/22. According to an older outdated study 13% of married households with children have stay at home moms. If it is your reality then you need to reexamine your goals and take steps to meet those goals.

If your goal is a new car every 3-5 years for each of you, new $800+ cellphones every year etc. then yeah you will have to work your life away to get those things. If your goal is to be a single income household and raise your kids yourself instead of letting strangers do it for you then you need to manage your expenses accordingly. You can raise a family of 4 comfortably on a $40k a year salary in plenty of places in this country.

It is a choice people make to chase "things" because status is all that matters in this country. I laugh at people complaining about their bosses and bragging about their $40k new car and other junk because they will be on the treadmill for their entire lives. This isn't a government issue it is a culture issue.
No, it's both. I agree with your point but it's not complete. I'm upset with the government taking from the lower classes to keep the upper classes rolling in money. Not because I believe they need a new cell phone every year but because the path we are on is unsustainable. It's not about me, it's what we are doing to future generations. We are determined to ruin what was a pretty good thing because of greed.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:58 PM
 
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Who will pay for it?
Why should the poor have to continue to pay to prop "capitalism" up?
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Old 12-20-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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Got a slice of reality for you, most of the places that a family of 4 could survive on $40k have next to no jobs that pay that much. And further, have no quality of life when your entertainment options are WalMart or cow tipping
Not everyone agree's on what a good quality of life is. Don't make that mistake.
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