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Old 12-18-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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And how do you know it is not based on the evidence of crime?
What crime?
let's start there.
They are searching for a crime. (aka: Witch Hunt.)
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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What crime?
let's start there.
They are searching for a crime. (aka: Witch Hunt.)
Hacking into US Servers....Crime
Knowledge or assistance to this Crime...Conspiracy
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:38 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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What crime?
let's start there.
They are searching for a crime. (aka: Witch Hunt.)
It may be a witch hunt but witches do exist in this case.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Now that I lured you into the topic, some info on investigations of Executive Branch:

- Watergate, by FBI and Archibald Cos/Leon Jaworski: 765 days
- Bill Clinton, by Ken Starr: 1,491 days (for a beejay, I mean come on)
- Hillary Clinton, Benghazi: 949 days

- Robert Meuller, Trump-Russia - 215 days.

And guess what: Muellers investigation produced more than Clinton's investigations: plea deals and indictments (FYI: plea deals are only entered into by prosecutors when they can help take down highers guys. Who is higher than M. Flynn? Ask yourself).

Anyone who says Mueller's investigation is dragging has no idea what they are talking about.

Same people who claim a guy calling people idiots somehow changes the nature of objective evidence submitted in front of grand jury.

Very well stated. The walls are closing in on Trump. He is in panic mode as he should be.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Hacking into US Servers....Crime
Knowledge or assistance to this Crime...Conspiracy
US servers? Explain.
Do you mean the DNC server that the Democrats never let the FBI see?
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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Total BS. Every head of US Intelligence is in 100% agreement that Russia interfered in a federal US election.
This warrants an investigation unless your allegiance is to Russia. Hacking into US Servers is a crime...a big one. Any American that had knowledge of or gave assistance to this crime is considered a conspiracy...which is a crime. Is it the investigators fault they have found a Trump campaign official with Russia Intelligence at every turn of this investigation???
Thank you. Trumpers always want to simplify what is going on. There is not an investigation, per se, of criminal collusion between Donald Trump and the Russians. This is an investigation of how the Russians tried to influence our electoral process for President in 2016.

So, even if Donald Trump isn't involved there is plenty of reason for an investigation to go.

I can't stand Trump, but I really believe that the investigation needs to focus on how we can prevent a repeat of the Russian interference with our 2016 election. Trump and his people figure into all that, but its not the overriding question.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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What crime?
let's start there.
They are searching for a crime. (aka: Witch Hunt.)
Yeah makes total sense that DOJ under Trump made up a cause to start an investigation and appoint a special counsel.

And the fact that Trump's campaign manager was laundering money with Russian oligarchs, as evidenced by court documents, it also totally made up by all the banks that provided records. And I am sure you know much more than public from the no-leak Mueller team that this indictment is totally not related to Trump-Russia investigation, right?

Ohhh right I forgot: Judge 130 miles an hour told you on fox news, huh? I would totally take her word over verifiable, objective court evidence submitted and available to public too.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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US servers? Explain.
Do you mean the DNC server that the Democrats never let the FBI see?
That does not erase the fact that ALL U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded the Russian government hacked the DNC in an attempt to interfere in the election. FACT. So that leaves us with the "Deep State" conspiracy theory. That All US Intelligence agencies are acting in coordination to undermine and eject a sitting US President Donald Trump. This conspiracy theory is in the same category that the Moon Landings were filmed in a Hollywood studio and never happened.
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Old 12-18-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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That does not erase the fact that ALL U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded the Russian government hacked the DNC in an attempt to interfere in the election. FACT. So that leaves us with the "Deep State" conspiracy theory. That All US Intelligence agencies are acting in coordination to undermine and eject a sitting US President Donald Trump. This conspiracy theory is in the same category that the Moon Landings were filmed in a Hollywood studio and never happened.
Oh, the fallacy that "Seventeen" agencies did their own investigations?
What's your theory as to why the DNC never let the FBI have the server?
Curious, no?
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Old 12-18-2017, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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First of all, the Russian investigation is closing in on 500 days now.
No it isn't.

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Second, the other investigations you mentioned were started because there was evidence of a crime. The Mueller/Russian investigation is an investigation in search of a crime, the very definition of a witch hunt.

That's what you've been told to say.

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