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Old 12-24-2017, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Me too! I wasn't sure about why Trump picked her ...now I know. She speaks her mind, and she speaks for America.
Does "I'm taking names" sound like her mind, or the mind of someone else we know Its obvious she was relaying Trumps words.
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Old 12-24-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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Does "I'm taking names" sound like her mind, or the mind of someone else we know Its obvious she was relaying Trumps words.
Clearly, he told her exactly what to say.

Sad for her actually, she had a good career going ...
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Old 12-24-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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Israel is a reliable ally of the U.S. They share our values. They are a civilized country.

End of subject.
I don't think so.

Political capital is real and finite.

Political interests are real and group oriented.

The group whose political interests are most primarily tied in with Israel voted against Trump in the largest numbers.

He is now spending finite political capital on them instead of the primary political issue for his supporters.

End of subject.

Btw, what are "our values"? I hear that more out of Hillary Clinton's mouth than anyone else's. So, it seems to mean different things for different people, but is most often used as a cheap psychological mechanism and non-argument when one can't make a case for their politics.

Everyone's "values" seem to be directly tied into their group specific political interests. Heck, even Jews change their "values" as they move from the USA to Israel and back again, as their political interests are starkly different in each nation. So, please, save the political sound bites for liberal CNN viewers.

Even you, as a "Left Wing Democrat" have sliding values as they apply to both the USA and Israel. Unless you mean for the USA to be an ethnostate.
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Old 12-25-2017, 07:38 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Btw, what are "our values"? I hear that more out of Hillary Clinton's mouth than anyone else's. So, it seems to mean different things for different people, but is most often used as a cheap psychological mechanism and non-argument when one can't make a case for their politics.

Everyone's "values" seem to be directly tied into their group specific political interests. Heck, even Jews change their "values" as they move from the USA to Israel and back again, as their political interests are starkly different in each nation. So, please, save the political sound bites for liberal CNN viewers.

Even you, as a "Left Wing Democrat" have sliding values as they apply to both the USA and Israel. Unless you mean for the USA to be an ethnostate.
Suicide bombings, car rammings, knifings and throwing gays off cliffs are not our values.
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Old 12-25-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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Suicide bombings, car rammings, knifings and throwing gays off cliffs are not our values.
add: honor killing, killing apostates, covering women from head to toe in black such they resemble evil sci-fi aliens. Not our values.

Especially killing apostates. Any religion whose proponents advocate the murder or even punishment of those who want to leave the faith is not compatible with American values, or even human values.
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Old 12-25-2017, 09:56 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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add: honor killing, killing apostates, covering women from head to toe in black such they resemble evil sci-fi aliens. Not our values.

Especially killing apostates. Any religion whose proponents advocate the murder or even punishment of those who want to leave the faith is not compatible with American values, or even human values.
Yeah. That's trivial compared to "targeted assassinations" of murderers by Israel. </sarcasm>
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