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Old 12-20-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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are you actually advocating the impeachment of a president because the congress passed a "tax break", he is "unpopular, he "fractured the republican party", and your personal opinion that he "can't walk and chew gum"?

not only would impeachment of a legally elected president for legal legislation passed by a legally elected congress and unpopularity set a dangerous precedent for future presidents, this action would tear the country apart at the seams.
The Left doesn’t care about the country. They want a one-world utopia, where everybody is of one race (blended) and of similiarly liberal like mind. If you are for anything else besides what they want, they will attack you unrelentlessly like they’ve been doing to Trump (and other Republicans historically).
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:43 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Support for donald trump’s impeachment is higher than his reelection chances
But his chances for reelection far outweigh his chances of being impeached.

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“While Trump’s first six months in the White House have been marked by early stumbles, a healthy dose of palace intrigue and low approval numbers, history says Trump is in fact the odds-on favorite to win re-election in 2020,
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...avorite-to-wi/
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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I HIGHLY dislike Trump BUT as of yet I don't see him being impeached for anything. Yet. As I've stated before he'll step down before anything like impeachment happens.
I don't know that stepping down is a viable option.

Aside from the financial impact, he won't be able to protect his kids if he does.

Given the state charges, he might not even be able to protect himself.

His best bet is to fight this as long as he can. Spread lies and lunatic conspiracy tales. Insult people. Muddy the waters.

What else has he got?
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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The Left doesn’t care about the country. They want a one-world utopia, where everybody is of one race (blended) and of similiarly liberal like mind. If you are for anything else besides what they want, they will attack you unrelentlessly like they’ve been doing to Trump (and other Republicans historically).
This is utter nonsense.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:55 AM
 
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Impeachment of Trump is nothing more than a self indulgent Democrat fantasy, based on absolutely nothing and heading absolutely nowhere.
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Two guilty pleas and two indictments, with more on the way, say otherwise.
elliot you just proved tysters point. back when bush43 was in office, the democrats constantly called for his impeachment, and it never happened. when obama was in office, republicans called for his impeachment, again nothing happened. now democrats are again calling for trumps impeachment, and again nothing will happen. impeachment is a wet dream of the party not in the white house.

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It's not a lie, that's how Trump won the 2016 election. Donald Trump doesn't have a base and will not win re-election without an assist from Russia. If Trump has a base, it's Russian interference.
you have proof that trump colluded with the russians? congress would love to see it if you do. i remember back when trump first threw his hat into the ring for president, everyone said he wouldnt make the primaries. then everyone said he couldnt win a primary, then everyone said he couldnt win the nomination. then everyone said the RNC would do everything they could to keep him from being able to accept the nomination. then everyone said he wouldnt beat hillary. then everyone said he wouldnt last 90 days in office, then it was 6 months, then it was a year.

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Exactly.

And when/if the time comes where they could have a meaningful vote on meaningful articles, it will fail because of the precedent it would set. Power structures change, but power itself, once granted, is never returned. The incumbents know this. Impeach Trump based on polls and shad optics now, and the next Democrat POTUS, who is guaranteed to be just as shady and sleazy as any other politician, will be investigated endlessly and impeached just as frivolously as the impeachment of Trump would be.

And if crap like Fast & Furious, weaponizing the IRS against Republican PACs (so much worse than breaking into the DNC offices back in 1972), and selling legislation/secrets/weapons to Iran didn't stick to Obama, there really is nothing that will stick to Trump. Partisans will always believe that whatever the other party does is the most heinous, evil, wicked thing ever, but the misdeeds and hijinks are almost identical and just get different treatment depending on the party doing them.

Trump will not get impeached. They'll poll it and yap about it until he is no longer in office, same as Obama's dumb***** birth certificate nonsense, but it isn't going anywhere.
if meaningful article of impeachment are presented, they will get serious consideration in the house judiciary committee. but they need to be something more than just we think he abused his power because he rescinded obamas illegal executive orders, or some such garbage.

nixon weaponized the IRS, and articles of impeachment were approved by the house judiciary committee for abuse of power as one of the articles.

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what about Clinton they tried to impeach him and failed because he lied and cheated on his wife both not a crime
clinton WAS impeached, but not convicted in the senate, for perjury in a court deposition. perhaps you should READ the record of the impeachment of bill clinton rather than rely on the media.
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Old 12-20-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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But his chances for reelection far outweigh his chances of being impeached.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...avorite-to-wi/
Incumbency has its benefits, but no incumbent since the advent of approval ratings 60+ years ago has remotely approached the level of unpopularity now facing Donald Trump. He’s even 10 points behind the unelected Gerald Ford at the same point in time.

And this article is all of 3 hours old.

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Post-war presidential approval ratings (first December in office)

Dwight Eisenhower, 1953: 68
John Kennedy, 1961: 76
Lyndon Johnson, 1964: 68
Richard Nixon, 1969: 56
Gerald Ford, 1974: 42
Jimmy Carter, 1977: 56
Ronald Reagan, 1981: 48
George H W Bush, 1989: 71
Bill Clinton, 1993: 54
George W Bush, 2001: 86
Barack Obama, 2009: 51
Donald Trump, 2017: 32

Donald Trump becomes least popular first-year president in modern US history, polls find | The Independent
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Naturally, a Republican House will never initiate impeachment proceedings, but if things don't go well for republicans in the midterms? Almost a year in office and what Trump has accomplished is a terrific tax break for billionaires like himself. He is easily the most unpopular president in our history and has fractured the republican party to the breaking point. The US is in desperate need of a POTUS who at the very least can walk and chew gum at the same time. That would NOT be Trump.
Because of the new tax bill? LOL

You lost. Get over it.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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Incumbency has its benefits, but no incumbent since the advent of approval ratings 60+ years ago has remotely approached the level of unpopularity now facing Donald Trump. He’s even 10 points behind the unelected Gerald Ford at the same point in time.

And this article is all of 3 hours old.




Donald Trump becomes least popular first-year president in modern US history, polls find | The Independent






And he had a poor ratings since he started running.


He beat the higher rated candidates like Kasich And Rubio for the nomination and ended up winning the presidency


But I'm glad the Dems are relying solely on polls
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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Incumbency has its benefits, but no incumbent since the advent of approval ratings 60+ years ago has remotely approached the level of unpopularity now facing Donald Trump. He’s even 10 points behind the unelected Gerald Ford at the same point in time.

And this article is all of 3 hours old.




Donald Trump becomes least popular first-year president in modern US history, polls find | The Independent
Ford was wildly unpopular for pardoning Nixon.
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Old 12-20-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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Ford was wildly unpopular for pardoning Nixon.
ford was a lousy president anyway, even i didnt care for him. but i might note that reagan had low ratings in his first december in office and he was a damned good president. will this translate to better ratings for trump? i dont know, but being a president that is working to change course is tough, and it doesnt help that trump is bearing the brunt of many lies and hate directed at him.
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