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Old 12-24-2017, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Orrrr....and this is a crazy thought, so bear with me.

People can find wonderment in both science AND fiction. Wait a minute. Isn't there an entire genre of storytelling, films, games, books, etc. named sci-fi? Science fiction.

By golly I think there is!
Exactly! We refer to them as "Fiction." The meaning of "fiction" means, " imaginary events and people."

So now, in addition to ignoring scientific facts, a teacher must not not explain the difference between fiction and non-fiction?
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Old 12-24-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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I have granddaughters aged 3 and 5. The older one goes to a K-12 STEM-focused charter school that her sister will also attend. The 5 year old can already tell you about gravity and friction. There will be plenty of science in their lives but they are also little girls enjoying Santa and Elf On The Shelf. They love playing pretend and games that require imagination. To take away Santa and the like and only allow them to live in a world of hard facts will diminish their scientific curiosity, not increase it. Let kids be kids.
So if a child asks their teacher in the third grade if Santa exists, the teacher should lie?
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So if a child asks their teacher in the third grade if Santa exists, the teacher should lie?
The teacher should tactfully postpone the question until she can confer with the parents.
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:03 AM
 
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So if a child asks their teacher in the third grade if Santa exists, the teacher should lie?
The teacher shouldn’t answer the question but rather deflect to the parents.
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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The teacher shouldn’t answer the question but rather deflect to the parents.
What should the parents tell the child?
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:09 AM
 
Location: CT
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So if a child asks their teacher in the third grade if Santa exists, the teacher should lie?
A lot of parents embrace self learning, the kids will figure it out in their own way, I don't personally know any adults who would argue there really is a man in a sleigh delivering packages. I do know a lot of adults who believe in the spirit of the holidays, and they make the world a better place and don't ask for any thing in return. Knowledge is something you learn, kindness and selflessness is something you discover in yourself.
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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Exactly! We refer to them as "Fiction." The meaning of "fiction" means, " imaginary events and people."

So now, in addition to ignoring scientific facts, a teacher must not not explain the difference between fiction and non-fiction?
Yeah.

That's what I said.
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:35 AM
 
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So if a child asks their teacher in the third grade if Santa exists, the teacher should lie?
"Do YOU believe in Santa?"

"Ask your parents."

"I believe in the spirit of Santa."

See? Came up with those in like 3 seconds. Not hard to be diplomatic.
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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What should the parents tell the child?
Whatever they want.

I, myself, asked what they thought. And if they were on the fence, I winked and said, "Well I guess we'll see, right?"

I miss when we could have fun with our kids without overanalyzing every little thing we said on an online forum full of strangers trying to prove they are smarter than everyone else in the room.
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Old 12-24-2017, 10:45 AM
 
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"Do YOU believe in Santa?"

"Ask your parents."

"I believe in the spirit of Santa."

See? Came up with those in like 3 seconds. Not hard to be diplomatic.
Let's see "the spirit of Santa."

-Obese
-stalking children, 24 hour surveillance (sees who is naughty or good)
-prejudiced (wouldn't let Rudolph join in the reindeer games)
-only works one day a year
-abuses elf labor (I guess the materialistic Christmas is about getting an electronic gadget cheaply made by child labor in some third world country).
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