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Old 12-22-2017, 04:04 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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From where did you get your psychology degree?

Or, are you making an assertion based on nothing but ignorance?
I'll ignore the personal insult and answer your question with a question. What kind of person do you think that would find appealing the opportunity to murder, rape, and torture?
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Old 12-22-2017, 04:09 PM
 
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Muslims should be kicked out of Western countries.

But liberal politicians can't virtue-signal and look like they're "intelligently grappling with a very complex human situation in a humane and enlightened manner" if they do that.

Incidentally, all those "reformed gang members" that supposedly deter kids from joining gangs don't seem to have stopped gangs.

Just sayin'.
Why?

Would you kick someone like this out? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Ellison

Or any of these people? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Muslims

And if so, why?


Comes to mind.
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Old 12-22-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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And why should anyone believe them when they say they have "...truly turned away from the ideology..."? As far as I'm concerned anyone who joins ISIS has forever forfeited any claim to decency, sanity, and credibility. They will always be suspect.
It's not like he's proposing that they be set free and off to go convert folks with the state's blessing. They are going to be prosecuted, pay whatever debt to society, etc still. He's simply saying after that, if they have reformed that can be a good voice for deterring others. Not even that they "will"...just there's a possibility. Why is that so outrageous?
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Old 12-22-2017, 06:06 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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It's not like he's proposing that they be set free and off to go convert folks with the state's blessing. They are going to be prosecuted, pay whatever debt to society, etc still. He's simply saying after that, if they have reformed that can be a good voice for deterring others. Not even that they "will"...just there's a possibility. Why is that so outrageous?
And what would that be? If a returning ISIS member served an extremely long prison sentence he might have some influence with potential recruits when he says "don't follow the path I followed". But if he served only a short sentence in a cushy Canadian jail I don't think he would have much deterrent effect at all. Maybe even the opposite.
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Old 12-22-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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It's not like he's proposing that they be set free and off to go convert folks with the state's blessing. They are going to be prosecuted, pay whatever debt to society, etc still. He's simply saying after that, if they have reformed that can be a good voice for deterring others. Not even that they "will"...just there's a possibility. Why is that so outrageous?
https://globalnews.ca/news/3889240/l...ada-open-arms/

It isn’t like they have a plan to jail them either.
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Old 12-22-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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Some folks begin to wonder if it's a case of double-standard about re-intergrating ISIS fighters and expulsing an alleged Bosnian war criminal named Bozo Jozepovic?
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8...an-war-crimes/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AuZdomkS7U
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Old 12-22-2017, 06:28 PM
 
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The U.S. military/government let loose ISIS fighters in order to have them fight Assad's regime.

The American government certainly doesn't have any clean hands in any of this, and has no right to cast judgement on others.
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Old 12-22-2017, 06:39 PM
 
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The American government certainly doesn't have any clean hands in any of this, and has no right to cast judgement on others.
This is about Justin Trudeau, not the US Government.

He brings shame to Canada for coddling ISIS.
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:03 PM
 
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The U.S. military/government let loose ISIS fighters in order to have them fight Assad's regime.

The American government certainly doesn't have any clean hands in any of this, and has no right to cast judgement on others.
I’m not the American government, and I can cast judgement on both American and Canadian governments.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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This is about Justin Trudeau, not the US Government.

He brings shame to Canada for coddling ISIS.
Are you American?

Then yes, this IS also about the US government since so many Americans on this forum see fit to cast judgement on how other politicians run their countries.

How can someone criticize Trudeau, when our own American government gave a free pass to ISIS fighters to fight Assad's regime in Syria.
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