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Old 12-22-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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All fine, but what you're doing is trying to lay blame solely on the subsequent administrations without even mentioning the one who started it (Bush)..
Bush only started 1 war of choice - Iraq. (and Hillary voted for it)

The rest lie at the feet of Obama Hillary and the Democrats.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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Obama Phones & a 10 million dollar Solar Panel Company that went BK doesn't qualify as "Infrastructure Spending".

Bailing out Wall Street, providing Loan Modifications on 700K homes & bailing out Wall Street Mortgage Insurance companies to the tune of several Trillion Dollars isn't "infrastructure spending" either. It was a transfer of wealth. Our Debt went from 9 Trillion to 19 Trillion. He took your Grandchildren's money & my Grandchildren's money..... and gave it to Wall Street and to Loan Modification Recipients.

The country got ZERO. No roads, no bridges, NADA.

We might as well have given it to our Sailors and Soldiers to spend when they go on Liberty.....at least we would have gotten some stories from the 9 Trillion that Obama P*ssed off.
10 million is a joke. A drop in the bucket. They were loan guarantees that were applied for under an Energy Dept program created during the Bush administration. The final approval came later, while Obama was president, because the application needed additional work. Google it.

Tarp and the bailouts were both products of the Bush administration, Treas Sec Paulson (R) and Ben Bernanke (R). Solyndras business model failed because the Chinese started producing less efficient, but much cheaper solar panels. Shame when facts get in the way of a good story, eh?

A great deal of money was handed out to the individual states under an infrastructure package and the GOP was adamantly against it and refused to grant additional spending. The Democrats wanted more and the GOP fought it. That is why Trump thinks he can get the Dems on board. Think!

Obama's spending was not out of line with his predecessors either, the cost of servicing the debt goes up as the balance increases, Social programs cost more during huge recessions, two wars cost money, both started before Obama, and TARP, plus various bailouts added to the problem , along with lower revenues. Guess why? A RECESSION! But feel free to regale us on what Obama spent 10 trillion on. Should be easy to find.

The fact you are still spouting these debunked talking points is an indication that you are either not truthful or not informed. Now, go ahead and cherry pick some out-of-context bit to try and save face. It is completely expected. I won't respond,you have already wasted enough of my time. I grow weary! LOL

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Old 12-22-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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Obama Phones & a 10 million dollar Solar Panel Company that went BK doesn't qualify as "Infrastructure Spending".
Bailing out Wall Street, providing Loan Modifications on 700K homes & bailing out Wall Street Mortgage Insurance companies to the tune of several Trillion Dollars isn't "infrastructure spending" either. It was a transfer of wealth. Our Debt went from 9 Trillion to 19 Trillion. He took your Grandchildren's money & my Grandchildren's money..... and gave it to Wall Street and to Loan Modification Recipients.
The country got ZERO. No roads, no bridges, NADA.

We might as well have given it to our Sailors and Soldiers to spend when they go on Liberty.....at least we would have gotten some stories from the 9 Trillion that Obama P*ssed off.
Sounds like the Fox Analysts and Hannity.....& even many of their actual reporters.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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Trump, as always, makes good point.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...92071535153152
Whether the Democrats are actually interesting in rebuilding the USA is quite another matter indeed.
Trump did not say the Democrats spent 7 trillion dollars. He said the USA spent all that money. Didn't you realize that?

Have you forgotten about George W Bush ? Have you forgotten that illegal invasion of Iraq ( speech on the aircraft carrier, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Haliburton big contracts, no nukes found, etc)? Where have you been Waldo? ... under a rock ?

Also, you should know (but of course you don't, because you are ill informed) that infrastructure has always been a high priority with Democrats. It was the Republicans who did not want to spend the money. Where is the money hiding now Waldo?

Where do you suppose the money is coming from now? Are we going to have to sell our roads, canals, dams and bridges to be converted to collect tolls? What does your messiah plan to do now?

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Old 12-22-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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Obama Phones & a 10 million dollar Solar Panel Company that went BK doesn't qualify as "Infrastructure Spending".

Bailing out Wall Street, providing Loan Modifications on 700K homes & bailing out Wall Street Mortgage Insurance companies to the tune of several Trillion Dollars isn't "infrastructure spending" either. It was a transfer of wealth. Our Debt went from 9 Trillion to 19 Trillion. He took your Grandchildren's money & my Grandchildren's money..... and gave it to Wall Street and to Loan Modification Recipients.

The country got ZERO. No roads, no bridges, NADA.

We might as well have given it to our Sailors and Soldiers to spend when they go on Liberty.....at least we would have gotten some stories from the 9 Trillion that Obama P*ssed off.
Not only did Obama sign the bill, it was LESS than what he actually sought for infrastructure to begin with. Key Republicans tried to block him (repeatedly). He had to make concessions to keep it alive.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ngress/418827/

$478B Infrastructure Bill Blocked by Senate GOP | The Fiscal Times
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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Trump did not say the Democrats spent 7 trillion dollars.
Yes he did.

Your attempt to literally dissect the paragraph by individual sentence fails.
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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That Obama is so powerful he started the Afghani war 7 years before getting elected!
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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Bush only started 1 war of choice - Iraq. (and Hillary voted for it)

The rest lie at the feet of Obama Hillary and the Democrats.
So Bush didn't start Afghanistan? You're placing so much on Hillary as if she was president at the time. You're deflecting, but we both know Bush was in charge. Hillary and many Dems voted for it...and so did Republicans. So why are Dems more to blame than their Repub brethren, particularly under a Repub president?
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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Dems spent 7 Trill? That sounds like fake news
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:59 AM
 
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Bush only started 1 war of choice - Iraq. (and Hillary voted for it)

The rest lie at the feet of Obama Hillary and the Democrats.
Damn the truth to hell
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