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Old 12-22-2017, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I have a beautiful relatively cheap 2 bedroom, 2 bath modern suburban apartment. I've been here 10.7 years and I'm still not paying the rent I paid in Maryland in for a smaller apartment there. I'm originally from NY (Bronx and Long Island) and lived in Maryland for 12 years. I pay no state income tax. My electric bill was $56.00 last month. There's a lake in my town and I can see the mountains. The Great Smoky Mountains National Park isn't far away. None of the roads or highways near me are toll roads. My town has a national lab, a national security complex, a hospital, a science museum, several parks and an arboretum just to name a few things and the population is just under 30,000 sitting on 85 square miles of land. You've been watching too much TV and movies.
So what? The point is don’t go around throwing stones from your very fragile glass house. If we get into a war of stereotypes between the Northeast and Tennessee, we can be certain who comes out on the losing end on that one. It’s about the equivalent of a Browns fan giving a Pats fan a hard time for his team missing the playoffs.

 
Old 12-22-2017, 05:39 PM
 
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Businesses in red states are having trouble filling open positions, so they recruit outside of the region.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 05:49 PM
 
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The older you get, the more conservative you will become.
That’s simply a Republican Fairy Tale.

While individuals within a generational group may change their political identity later in life, research has determined that for the majority of people, their political identity is formed in early adulthood and remains fixed for life. The political environment during the period they reach voting age is a critical factor in determining how those voters fall in the political spectrum

Younger, older generations divided in partisanship and ideology | Pew Research Center

The politics of American generations: How age affects attitudes and voting behavior | Pew Research Center

If you don’t believe me or Pew Research, read the comments of Republican Pollster Kirstin Soltis Anderson.

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No, Winston Churchill did not say, "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."

And good thing he didn't, or he'd have been completely, terribly, utterly wrong.
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Nonsense. And fresh data from the Pew Research Center underscores the extent to which the kids and their counterparts in "Generation X", are not only not making the hoped-for slow march toward the political right, but drift ever more leftward, even as they age.
Time to panic? Young Republicans ditching GOP like never before

Conservatives can't just lean on a debunked Churchill line, hoping millennials start leaning right

To steal part of a question that Megan Kelly asked Karl Rove in 2012, this is a tale that Republicans tell each other to make themselves feel better.

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Old 12-22-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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People that live in the metro echo chambers their entire life, do not understand that if you live on a farm or out in the sticks, you never get bored. There is always something to do and places to be. They would be lost without their Starbucks, McDonalds and their cell phones.
This has to be the most ridiculous comment that I've ever read.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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This has to be the most ridiculous comment that I've ever read.


Naw, not even close. I know plenty of urban folks addicted to Starbucks and their cell phones. McDonalds, well.....
 
Old 12-22-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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People that live in the metro echo chambers their entire life, do not understand that if you live on a farm or out in the sticks, you never get bored. There is always something to do and places to be. They would be lost without their Starbucks, McDonalds and their cell phones.
Seriously? Do you honestly believe that people are 'bored' in NYC or LA or Seattle without McDonalds, Starbucks and phones? Are you aware of how much there is to do in those cities? The point is that you actually do not need McDonalds in the city--there are vast choices of street food and take-out. Phones are convenient, but I lived there for years without it.

And how do you explain this? If 'out in the sticks' is so fascinating and mind expanding, why does 'out in the sticks' have the higher rates of opiod addiction?

The opioid crisis is at its worst in rural areas. Can telemedicine help?

Why Is The Opioid Epidemic Hitting Rural America Especially Hard? | NPR Illinois
 
Old 12-22-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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The last Census in 2010, saw many blue wall states, lose population to the Red States. Losing house of representative seats.

Is there a trend forming(or already formed) that people are rejecting the total control, tax & spend policies of Blue States

https://www.politico.com/story/2008/...3-seats-016816
As others are telling you, this is what is turning many Red states purple and eventually Blue. People with manners, money and education are moving for retirement, weather, etc. - and they VOTE.
 
Old 12-22-2017, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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The older you get, the more conservative you will become.
I guess I didn't get that memo, I'm a 71 year old liberal
 
Old 12-22-2017, 06:19 PM
 
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Seriously? Do you honestly believe that people are 'bored' in NYC or LA or Seattle without McDonalds, Starbucks and phones? Are you aware of how much there is to do in those cities? The point is that you actually do not need McDonalds in the city--there are vast choices of street food and take-out. Phones are convenient, but I lived there for years without it.

And how do you explain this? If 'out in the sticks' is so fascinating and mind expanding, why does 'out in the sticks' have the higher rates of opiod addiction?

The opioid crisis is at its worst in rural areas. Can telemedicine help?

Why Is The Opioid Epidemic Hitting Rural America Especially Hard? | NPR Illinois



He didn't say bored without SB. He said city dwellers would be lost without many of the things like SB, or their phones. My wife and I are constantly amazed when we go into restaurants to see at nearly every table most people there have their heads down staring at their phones, rather than talking to the people sitting with them at the table.




Rural opioid use is no higher than in urban areas, and actual addiction to opioids is actually higher in urban areas. Drug abuse in general for decades was substantially lower in rural areas than urban ones. Why is drug abuse as high or higher in urban areas? And we haven't even mentioned heroin or cocaine. Don't pretend the drug problem is as bad in rural areas as urban . Its not. Not even close.


Something has changed concerning rural addiction in recent years. its not simply boredom with rural life, since the addiction is a new phenomenon. There is some other factor at work . Migration of city dwellers to "bedroom communities" in rural areas may be one factor.

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Old 12-22-2017, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It just shows how many people have been Red Pilled and need their fix.

Puerto Ricans come here and realize Socialism sucks. History has shown, they are some of the most conservative once here.
Nope. Not at all.

The fact is just as was said. People move for all kinds of reasons, but they take their beliefs with them.

That means the immigrants are as likely to change the political makeup of their new state than they will suddenly become conservative by simply moving to a conservative state.

To determine if a state turns red or blue from immigration would require a close study of the immigrants themselves.

If a huge immigration of liberals from a blue state occurs in a red state, it could turn the red state they moved to blue, and the blue state they left red if it was large enough. Same with conservatives.

Moving factors like cost of living, job availability, good schools, plentiful housing, and other daily needs are all greater than political affiliation.
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