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Old 12-22-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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You think the Democrats will attempt to obstruct that, too? Traditionally they've been for improving infrastructure.
The deficit hawks that faded into the woodwork on the tax bill will be out in force on any infrastructure spending. The time to accomplish big legislative initiatives is the first year. Trump blew it.
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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You think the Democrats will attempt to obstruct that, too? Traditionally they've been for improving infrastructure.
They can't be seen as working with Trump on anything and sell their message of hate which is all they have in midterm elections.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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They can't be seen as working with Trump on anything and sell their message of hate which is all they have in midterm elections.
Exactly. Democrats are stuck with delivering a completely schizophrenic message... They yammer about the necessity for bipartisanship and yet they constantly deride and attack Trump and Republicans like a bunch of petulant 7th grade girls.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:14 AM
 
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Exactly. Democrats are stuck with delivering a completely schizophrenic message... They yammer about the necessity for bipartisanship and yet they constantly deride and attack Trump and Republicans like a bunch of petulant 7th grade girls.
For years, high-tax states benefited by passing the cost to the rest of the country by allowing them to write off their state taxes on their federal tax returns.

Now, Dems who always claimed paying taxes was patriotic when Dems raise taxes are now in hysteria... the "blue model" will now require its citizens to pay the real cost of government.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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So much for the fake news that he wasn't going to sign the bill until after the new year.



President Donald Trump signed the GOP tax bill in law on Friday, capping off a months-long effort to pass the legislation through the Republican-controlled Congress.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/22/trum...tml?yptr=yahoo
Yeah where are those Fake News sycophants with their Snowflake tears?
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:39 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Merry Christmas!! MAGA! On to infrastructure in 2018!
Trumps tax cuts do the following,

Raise workers income by 0.8%
Raise middle class Americans income by 1.5%
Raise the richest 1% of Americans income by 13.5%
Raise the richest 0.1% of Americans income by 14.2%

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno.../#3bc6b8d865b9


And Trumps infrastructure plan is also a handout to billionaires. Trumps plan allows billionaire developers to fix our infrastructure, and for every $1 these billionaires spend fixing our infrastructure (.82 cents will be given back to them with tax dollars from the middle class.)

Then after the roads and bridges are repaired these billionaire developers will personally own the roads and bridges, and then they will charge regular Americans tolls for use of the roads and bridges.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...structure-scam
Bernie Sanders roils Trump's infrastructure plan - Business Insider[/quote]


And its ironic how you use Christmas to celebrate Trump's tax and infrastructure policies. Christmas is a celebration of Jesus' birthday and Jesus taught us to help the poor and the Camel Parable. And Trump's tax and infrastructure plans 100% go against the philosophies and teachings of Jesus.

Last edited by chad3; 12-22-2017 at 11:47 AM..
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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For years, high-tax states benefited by passing the cost to the rest of the country by allowing them to write off their state taxes on their federal tax returns.

Now, Dems who always claimed paying taxes was patriotic when Dems raise taxes are now in hysteria... the "blue model" will now require its citizens to pay the real cost of government.
Yes, Democrats, who are always wishy-washy on the issue of states rights......depending on whether they agree with the issue or not............are about to find out that the additional "rights" that come with living in high tax blue state, also come with the responsibility of paying for them.

And it's about damn time too.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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For years, high-tax states benefited by passing the cost to the rest of the country by allowing them to write off their state taxes on their federal tax returns.

Now, Dems who always claimed paying taxes was patriotic when Dems raise taxes are now in hysteria... the "blue model" will now require its citizens to pay the real cost of government.
I'd bet those dems in those state will NOT petition to get their local taxes lowered.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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I don't think so, more like "on to cutting social programs in 2018". I don't think infrastructure is happening
People need to rely less on government . Spending cuts are necessary. Only people that don't like tax cuts are the ones that don't work .
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:48 AM
 
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Trumps tax cuts do the following,

Raise workers income by 0.8%
Raise middle class Americans income by 1.5%
Raise then richest 1% of Americans income by 13.5%
Raise the richest 0.1% of Americans income by 14.2%

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno.../#3bc6b8d865b9


And Trumps infrastructure plan is also a handout to billionaires. Trumps plan allows billionaire developers to fix our infrastructure, and for every $1 these billionaires spend fixing our infrastructure (.82 cents will be given back to them with tax dollars from the middle class.)

Then after roads or bridges are repaired these billionaire developers will personally own the roads or bridges, and then they will charge regular Americans tolls for use of those roads and bridges.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...structure-scam
Bernie Sanders roils Trump's infrastructure plan - Business Insider

And its ironic how you use Christmas to celebrate Trump's tax and infrastructure policies. Christmas is a celebration of Jesus' birthday and Jesus taught us to help the poor and the Camel Parable. And Trump's tax and infrastructure plans are the 100% the opposite of the teachings of Jesus.[/quote]




So you are trying to compare Trump's tax plan to Biblical Jesus???

Matthew 7:1-5 7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

If you want to go help the poor. Then go donate your money to them . Theres plenty of organizations. Or how about you head over to you local soup kitchen ...

Please do not chastise us about a tax cut that is needed and how the poor are going to magically suffer because of the plan .
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