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Old 12-24-2017, 05:48 AM
 
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The 'interference' occurred under Obama's watch !

And you and I both know that this entire Russian interference thing is because Hillary lost.
If she won, you would never have heard anything about it again, as she would have moved on to more pressing issue like how do we stack the supreme court with leftists, etc.
What does any of that have to do with taking steps to confront and correct Russian meddling in our internal affairs? Obama should have taken more decisive action. Shame on him and history will not look kindly on him for his failure.

Just because your candidate was the beneficiary of Russian intervention next time he/she may not be.

Many of this Country's conservative members have given up on this nation. That is what it sounds like to me. They are becoming like more third world in attitude. It is a fatalistic notion that we are too weak to do anything and our fate is to be the whipping boy of more powerful nations.

I hope Cons, or anyone who is for inaction, get a shellacking in our upcoming elections because this defeatist mentality will truly make us third world.

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Old 12-24-2017, 05:51 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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At least, Obama knew the constitution and what it stood for. Also, he was greatly qualified and had class and knew how to be a diplomat.

How can you say that those other countries are inconsequential? Why, because they have the guts to stand up to a bully that does what he wants with our country? Haley is just a puppet of Trumps.
She sounded just like him, taking names; what are they 3rd graders? I say Trump and Haley both need to go.

Trump and Haley, sound like war mongers; and maybe, they are. I thought Trump ran on ending wars. He is starting more than he can finish in a lifetime.
All Leftist talking points. Obama was a slacker that was promoted to a position he clearly wasn't qualified for. Companies do this all the time and later discover the damage.

America was sick of the wussified positions he took on every issue. All he wanted was to run out the clock on his Presidency and walk away with the $$$ all politicians aquire while in office.
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Old 12-24-2017, 07:03 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Don't fret over Scarborough. The entire world told Haley what she could do with her empty threats. 128 to 9. Our foreign standing is in shambles.
See Should U.S. Put Its Interests Before "World" - Examples Jerusalem as Capital, Paris Accords for the correct views on the quality of "world opinion" and the "international community." Why we should pay for the petting zoo known as the U.N. is beyond me.

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Old 12-24-2017, 07:15 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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At least, Obama knew the constitution and what it stood for. Also, he was greatly qualified and had class and knew how to be a diplomat.
Meaning giving away U.S. interests so that other leaders and diplomats would like him.

Next.

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How can you say that those other countries are inconsequential? Why, because they have the guts to stand up to a bully that does what he wants with our country? Haley is just a puppet of Trumps.
She sounded just like him, taking names; what are they 3rd graders? I say Trump and Haley both need to go.
The leaders and diplomats are perfectly safe from the "bully" at UN headquarters on the East River. Making an anti-West speech there takes no courage whatsoever.

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Trump and Haley, sound like war mongers; and maybe, they are. I thought Trump ran on ending wars. He is starting more than he can finish in a lifetime.
What war has he started?
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Old 12-24-2017, 07:20 AM
 
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all leftist talking points. Obama was a slacker that was promoted to a position he clearly wasn't qualified for. Companies do this all the time and later discover the damage.

America was sick of the wussified positions he took on every issue. All he wanted was to run out the clock on his presidency and walk away with the $$$ all politicians aquire while in office.
+1.
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Old 12-24-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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This just shows how indoctrinated you are to right wing talking points.

Trump won't even call out Putin on interfering with our elections, or anything else. If anyone hates America, it's Trump.
LOL!!! Perhaps that's because there has been no proof yet found that Putin interfered with our elections!

I'm not the one who is "indoctrinated" here. Being a "conservative," being free, and believing in freedom, does not require indoctrination. It is natural to man. One must be indoctrinated into ideologies that go against mans natural desires; i.e., to be free to determine ones own destiny.
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Old 12-24-2017, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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LOL!!! Perhaps that's because there has been no proof yet found that Putin interfered with our elections!

I'm not the one who is "indoctrinated" here. Being a "conservative," being free, and believing in freedom, does not require indoctrination. It is natural to man. One must be indoctrinated into ideologies that go against mans natural desires; i.e., to be free to determine ones own destiny.
Yes it is Natural for man to want to be free, speak our mind, and think the thoughts we want. It is not Natural to be artificially restricted by a PC society that wants to OPPRESS those in which they disagree. The Left in the U.S. is has quickly become like Stalin, Mai, and Pol Pot. Are the Gulags, and Killing Fields next? If left to the Progressives, anyone who disagreed would be in a concentration camp our worse. Only one thing keeps them from trying that so far.
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Old 12-24-2017, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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How convenient? Deflect by not acknowledging the Fed’s oversized, almost unaided role in saving, then reviving the economy. Perhaps you just do not know about the Federal Reserve, what it did over the long slog of a recovery. But, I think not. Otherwise, no need to change the subject completely in your response. Busted.
Quantitative Easing was the Lazy Man's way out of a recession, but created a HOLLOW, jobless recovery, and anemic GDP (economic) growth, but that was by design. Obama's cronies got rich, and everyone else suffered a malaise that was obvious in the stats, but also in the mood of the country. There was NO Optimism, only despair. Now we have Optimism.
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Old 12-24-2017, 08:42 AM
 
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All Leftist talking points. Obama was a slacker that was promoted to a position he clearly wasn't qualified for. Companies do this all the time and later discover the damage.

America was sick of the wussified positions he took on every issue. All he wanted was to run out the clock on his Presidency and walk away with the $$$ all politicians aquire while in office.
They were sick of it? A president is only allowed to serve 2 terms.
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Old 12-24-2017, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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You sound like a globalist. Me - I'll stick to being a nationalist, America first kind of guy. Israel is been a long time ally of ours, while the Palestinians have not.


8 other counties did vote with us, and we thank them for their support.
8 counties that what money from us. Some support.
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