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Old 12-23-2017, 02:32 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You can fill a book with all the hyperbole and falsehoods the Left and the biased liberal media have said about Trump.
You could fill several books with all the falsehoods Trump has told in his business and political lives.
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:32 PM
 
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America’s New Religion: Fox Evangelicalism

They are pretty much America's Taliban.
And CNN (and all the other biased liberal media of which there are way too many) are the Gestapo.
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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This is an interesting article where Christian activists promote Christian nationalism in the public sphere. As the number of people classifying themselves as Christians decline in the USA, people that promote Christian nationalism are becoming increasingly out of touch with more and more Americans.

“Never in my lifetime have we had a Potus willing to take such a strong outspoken stand for the Christian faith like Donald Trump,” tweeted Franklin Graham, the son of the evangelist Billy Graham. The Dallas pastor Robert Jeffress sees a divine hand at work: “God intervened in our election and put Donald Trump in the Oval Office for a great purpose.”

But what those critics don’t recognize is that the nationalistic, race-baiting, fear-mongering form of politics enthusiastically practiced by Mr. Trump and Roy Moore in Alabama is central to a new strain of American evangelicalism. This emerging religious worldview — let’s call it “Fox evangelicalism” — is preached from the pulpits of conservative media outlets like Fox News. It imbues secular practices like shopping for gifts with religious significance and declares sacred something as worldly and profane as gun culture
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/1...CAFb%3Famp%3D1
Waa! Not My Pwesident! Not My news station! Waa!

You would rather us have no news outlet. I get that.
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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I think it's a mental disorder to believe Trump is a strong spokesman for the Christian faith.
Won't say it's a mental disorder, but Trump does not speak for Christians. I do appreciate some positive attention though...
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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And all the liberal MSM ...
There is no 'liberal MSM'.

There is liberal media (equivalent to Breitbart with an opposing ideology), and there is the mainstream media. You promote the fallacy that anything you don't agree with is liberal, but that is not the case.

Journalists report the news. Good news, bad news, interesting news.

If the news makes your viewpoint look bad it's not because of the media, it's because of you and your viewpoint.

You look bad and that's what the rest of us see, don't blame the messenger.
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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I can't remember a time during my lifetime when a liar, thief, cheat, molester, and just really dumb person became President and was then adored by people who profess to be Christians. The qualities that Trump displays are not the qualities I learned about in church or during my six years of Catholic elementary school. If Trump is truly viewed as "a divine hand at work", I gotta say, God is really screwed up.

And FOX "News" isn't news - it's right-wing propaganda.
I find it strange also, as I see much of Trump's personality and behavior as disturbing and unethical. He said once he's never asked God for forgiveness because he's never made a mistake or sin. LOL
But I do support most of his policies, and think he's doing a lot better as president than I feared.

Your same statement could also be said for Hillary --- Hillary and her supporters deemed her as this iconic women's hero and mentor, yet she was historically atrocious and highly unethical on women's rights and values -- not to mention a compulsive liar and corrupt human being.

CNN, MSNBC, PBS, ABC, CBS aren't news either -- they are left-wing propaganda
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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This is an interesting article where Christian activists promote Christian nationalism in the public sphere. As the number of people classifying themselves as Christians decline in the USA, people that promote Christian nationalism are becoming increasingly out of touch with more and more Americans.

“Never in my lifetime have we had a Potus willing to take such a strong outspoken stand for the Christian faith like Donald Trump,” tweeted Franklin Graham, the son of the evangelist Billy Graham. The Dallas pastor Robert Jeffress sees a divine hand at work: “God intervened in our election and put Donald Trump in the Oval Office for a great purpose.”

But what those critics don’t recognize is that the nationalistic, race-baiting, fear-mongering form of politics enthusiastically practiced by Mr. Trump and Roy Moore in Alabama is central to a new strain of American evangelicalism. This emerging religious worldview — let’s call it “Fox evangelicalism” — is preached from the pulpits of conservative media outlets like Fox News. It imbues secular practices like shopping for gifts with religious significance and declares sacred something as worldly and profane as gun culture
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/1...CAFb%3Famp%3D1
This goes in the category with racism, allegations of sex abuse, and fake news.

They are all things Democrats accuse others of, which they practice themselves.
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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Won't say it's a mental disorder, but Trump does not speak for Christians. I do appreciate some positive attention though...

As far as I'm concerned the people who made these statements:

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“Never in my lifetime have we had a Potus willing to take such a strong outspoken stand for the Christian faith like Donald Trump,” tweeted Franklin Graham, the son of the evangelist Billy Graham. The Dallas pastor Robert Jeffress sees a divine hand at work: “God intervened in our election and put Donald Trump in the Oval Office for a great purpose.”
are out of touch with reality which qualifies as a mental disorder in my book.
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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America’s New Religion: Fox Evangelicalism

They are pretty much America's Taliban.
The Taliban actually bring some stability to Helmand Province.
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Old 12-23-2017, 02:39 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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There is no 'liberal MSM'.

There is liberal media (equivalent to Breitbart with an opposing ideology), and there is the mainstream media. You promote the fallacy that anything you don't agree with is liberal, but that is not the case.

Journalists report the news. Good news, bad news, interesting news.

If the news makes your viewpoint look bad it's not because of the media, it's because of you and your viewpoint.

You look bad and that's what the rest of us see, don't blame the messenger.
Journalists are suppose to report the news but that ship sailed away decades ago. Now you have anchors like Chris Matthews and Don Lemon sitting around a round desk with other Leftist talking heads with their nonstop Trump/Republican bashing. Tell me how that is reporting news and how that is not biased?
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