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Old 12-28-2017, 04:19 PM
 
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Incorrect.
Link provided proves other wise.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Fannie and Freddie don't originate mortgage loans. They're simply in the business of buying loans from banks. Fannie and Freddie actually had rather strict requirements about what type of loans could be included in their portfolios.

You can't write Bush out of the history of the financial crisis no matter how hard you try to shift blame over to Congress, Fannie, Clinton, etc. He actively promoted and incentivized zero down loans, which most reasonable people should have known would be a disaster, but everyone was cheering that on the same way they are cheering on today's stock market gains.
You're right, it was HUD, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. And they didn't do anything about it.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:28 PM
 
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https://www.thebalance.com/2007-fina...erview-3306138



Bush can share the blame for financial crisis - The New York Times





Bush was in Office when it went down.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Bush put the country back on it's feet ...TARP/auto bailout. Obama just followed Bushs' plan.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:34 PM
 
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Bush put the country back on it's feet ...TARP/auto bailout. Obama just followed Bushs' plan.
So we went from blaming Obama to Bush rescued the country???How?
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
Fannie and Freddie don't originate mortgage loans. They're simply in the business of buying loans from banks. Fannie and Freddie actually had rather strict requirements about what type of loans could be included in their portfolios.

You can't write Bush out of the history of the financial crisis no matter how hard you try to shift blame over to Congress, Fannie, Clinton, etc. He actively promoted and incentivized zero down loans, which most reasonable people should have known would be a disaster, but everyone was cheering that on the same way they are cheering on today's stock market gains.
For example...

Bush Called For Reform of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac 17 Times in 2008 Alone... Dems Ignored Warnings
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:36 PM
 
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US GDP growth rate is not good yet. Trump just cut taxes and hasn't done much for policies to take effect.

In fact, 2017 economy growth is among the lowest rate at 3%. Bill Clinton 1990s seems hard to beat for Trump.

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Old 12-28-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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It wasn't a housing crisis, it was a CREDIT crisis. Fractional reserve lending absolutely depends on the underlying assets. When they're suspect, the result is a CREDIT crisis.
Excellent point. And now with different Fed policy this is much less apt to happen again. Fractional reserve is now passe'.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...land-austerity

Since the crash the Fed has guaranteed and absorbed huge amounts of debt, good and bad. And they can do even more. But please don't tell anyone!
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:15 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You're right, it was HUD, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. And they didn't do anything about it.
Yep, I even posted a link to the C-SPAN video in which Barney Frank admitted it (after he had already retired, of course).
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Old 12-29-2017, 07:22 AM
 
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Correct. And for those who don't like that source, the White House web page is archived:

https://web.archive.org/web/20081002...080919-15.html
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