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In 2009 we were assured the city people would come and raid the farms for food. People were told to buy guns, ammo and canned food to survive. Guess what? It didn't happen. It was all Glenn Beck, and other RW nonsense.
Numbers have traditionally been fudged in both directions. My perception is that the fudging has trended toward representing less crime lately because nobody wants to be "that city" where crime is getting out of control in an era of perceived decline.
If you are talking about Los Angeles, this is actually documented concerning certain types of crime, admittedly categories in which reporting is always incomplete due to people involved in illegal activity being loath to report assaults and robberies. And in a city with so many people involved in illegal activity...
(Other cities, of course, are different.)
This is yet another reason why homicide numbers are the only accurate indications of overall crime levels.
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Just like the homeless numbers here in L.A.
I still think they're being conservative in their estimates even though their announced numbers show a virtual homeless explosion.
Nothing but my own bias and perception on that one too...or the fact that the homeless are now literally freaking everywhere.
You are correct about homelessness in Los Angeles, mainly because it is very difficult to get an accurate count.
Heroin addiction has led to an increase in crime. And I'm seeing more homeless people in suburbia. I think that's tied to heroin addiction but also the family unit seems to be weakening. You have a problem child or a shaky marriage and you just bail or kick them out and it falls apart.
Numbers have traditionally been fudged in both directions. My perception is that the fudging has trended toward representing less crime lately because nobody wants to be "that city" where crime is getting out of control in an era of perceived decline.
reporting of felonies is prone to error and manipulation but seldom for political reasons because that would require altering data on submitted reports or ensuring that all Officers engaged in collusion to falsify the classification of a crime. Here are a few of the common reasons for under reporting part one felonies (and yes I did work in LE for 26 years)
Officer at the scene doesn't know how to classify the crime, this most often occurs in mutual combat or domestic violence calls where the crime should be reported as a felony assault but isn't.
Detectives will downgrade assigned cases to avoid having to work them, otherwise they have to close or clear every case with an explanation.
Records clerks inputting crime reports have to fill in blanks left by Officers and without knowledge of the incident will sometimes misclassify crimes
LAPD seems to be plagued with reporting problems, so much so that a civilian review board had an independent audit conducted, and they found thousands of misclassified reports, but in spite of the errors, the auditor concluded that:
"The number of misclassified crimes was not large enough to alter the overall crime trends reported by the department from one year to the next, which included a steady drop in violence until 2014, when the crime rate began to climb. Bustamante's report echoes the findings of a Times analysis in October that also concluded the department misclassified thousands of crimes during an eight-year period ending in 2012."
If New York City and Los Angeles and their huge drop in homicide rates are taken out of equation, crime rates are likely very likely near the levels of the early 1990s especially considering the advances in medical treatment over the years.
I would ask for a citation
But you and I both know that you made this up out of thin air.
Cities are scary! Better hide in the hills and cling to your guns! Crime only happens in the inner city, it could never happen in rural America.
Over 60% of murder occurs in just 2% of US counties and those counties are urban. Even in those 2% of counties, murder is concentrated in pockets within them.
Here is a map of the USA by county, shaded for murder rate. Murder is predominately urban and effects minorities; suicide is rural and predominately effects Whites.
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Meanwhile in reality, I happily live my life in Milwaukee. I don't fear walking anywhere I need to go.
Cool story bro. See that little spot of dark red in Wisconsin, sitting on the shore of Lake Michigan in the map above? Yeah, that's Milwaukee.
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