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Old 12-28-2017, 12:19 AM
 
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HOAs at least give you a choice in areas where there is no zoning.

Where's the choice in areas where there is zoning?
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Old 12-28-2017, 12:20 AM
 
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No - all people will sort into groups.
Voluntarily?
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Old 12-28-2017, 12:38 AM
 
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Why wouldn’t that be a possible remedy? Court cases involving zoning issue are common enough. There are procedures in place to challenge most zoning regulations if one feels strongly about it. There are usually variance boards that will grant a variance if warranted. You probably won’t be allowed to put a heliport in your backyard.

It's a possible remedy only for property owners (usually developers) who can prove economic damages.

Low income renters are often the ones harmed most, and they have no remedy. Economists recognize the harm but there is no legal recognition of it.

Variances are often - deservedly so - difficult to get because they attach to the property and not to the owner. Often a property owner with innocuous intent and a sympathetic case can get a variance, and the neighbors have no recourse later when the owner moves and the new owner abuses the vatiance.
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Old 12-28-2017, 12:45 AM
 
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Do they still exist? I don't think I've even seen the word 'tallow' outside of Little House on the Prairie.
It exists. I've seen it on sale at gourmet grocers. Absolutely best fat to fry potatoes in, IMHO. Duck fat is a close second.
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Old 12-28-2017, 01:49 AM
 
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Neither, it's a Boomer policy.

In no way will the Boomers accept a drop in home values by allowing younger generations to potentially have a shot at owning. If Boomers did that then "undesireables" might even move into the neighborhood as well, and we all know what that does to property values.

Nah, this started long before the Boomers were even born.
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Old 12-28-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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Minimums should not exist anywhere. I do like the idea of maximum sizes for R1, and if there are structures above said size then the area would be rezoned R2.
Only if elected in private areas, HOA's and such.

At Canyon ski area in Park City their requirement is a certain minimum sq foot lot and sq foot house. Some get around the latter by first building their guest house.
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Old 12-28-2017, 08:08 AM
 
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The common sense solution is to limit parking, not people. Very easy to limit parking, e.g. restrict to paved surfaces (no parking on grass or side/back yards), maximum allowable impermeable (paved) surface area, no overnight street parking (e.g. no parking 2a - 5a).
https://www.eagleequip.com/product/MS-8000.html

lol
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Old 12-28-2017, 08:10 AM
 
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Ever heard of limousine liberals?
Kinda like a Jack Mormon.

Like I said not always black and white.
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