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Old 12-27-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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Rephrase the question. Why did the millionaires punish those who saved all their lives to boost their stock prices?

As usual, this will be ignored.
Ignored so far.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Ignored so far.
The average millionaire is manipulating the stock market ??
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:27 AM
 
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I just don't understand why people don't get this My State pension and my personal investment portfolio (457b and 401A) are funded with big corporations. I want smart CEO's to run those Corps. I don't give a rip how much they make.....
Maybe you should.


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A report by MSCI sampled 429 large-cap U.S. companies between 2006 and 2015. It found that during that time, shareholder returns of those companies whose total pay was below their sector median outperformed those companies where pay exceeded the sector median by as much as 39%.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:28 AM
 
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There is a huge difference between "punishing" millionaires and requiring them to pay a higher percentage of taxes than the working class; it's only right wing partisans that see it your way; like Eric Cantor when he talked about "punishing success", which was tripe







Nothing happens in isolation.


Millionaires are typically born into privilege that the rest of us will never experience no matter how clever and hard-working we might happen to be.


A wealthy family's way of life, passed down from parent to child, will be protected by working class kids serving in the infantry of the US Army or Marine Corps, or perhaps the navy, while their privileged kids are highly unlikely to serve at all.


Family connections and social networks, also passed from parent to child, are untaxed assets the wealthy enjoy and probably are more valuable than all others combined.


In contrast, a young person born into poverty, or even the lower middle-class, might have an opportunity to succeed, at least on paper, but in reality, if he or she fails in any way, the second, third and fourth chances the wealthy family's child gets, just won't be there.


When it all settles out, the wealthy are both protected and enriched by those born into less fortunate circumstances due to no accomplishment of their own or fault of those that benefit them.


Lacking a better mechanism to level the playing field, taxation at a higher rate is at least a step in the right direction that should be combined with other measures to preserve economic mobility.


I would prefer that the death tax be increased for the wealthy.


No reason anyone in America should be born on third base.


Education should be improved for the poor at all levels.


School vouchers are the only practical way to do that.


Reducing business regulation is a step in the right direction too since dominant businesses will use regulation to stifle competition.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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If someone is upset about how much CEOs are being paid they should stop investing their 401ks in those stocks.

A little known fact is you don't have to even invest your 401k in stock market

With a self directed 401k or IRA you can invest it in real estate , gold or whatever else you want .
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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The average millionaire is manipulating the stock market ??
They are benefiting from it by harming others. How is this OK? Why should we harm those who save to benefit the stock market?
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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They are benefiting from it by harming others. How is this OK? Why should we harm those who save to benefit the stock market?
What harm?
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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What harm?
We've done this over and over. Why do you do this?
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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If someone is upset about how much CEOs are being paid they should stop investing their 401ks in those stocks.
Well, that's not realistic. Most people have group 401k plans that offer funds, not individual stocks.

Most people's only option would be to shift from equities to bonds, and that's just stupid because its an entirely different asset class.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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poor people should invest in the stock market
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