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Old 12-29-2017, 08:46 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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The only thing that is fake is tRUMP. He conned you and you took it in hook line and sinker. Of course he did say he loved the uneducated.
A year and $$$$ and you Leftists don't have anything except a coerced confession by Flynn that he liked Russian dressing.
Fortunately this fake investigation conducted by professed Trump-haters is backfiring!
A big LOL!

Trump 2020
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Old 12-29-2017, 08:46 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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LMAO. You can't argue that Constitutional protections apply to all people when it suits your argument, and that Constitutional protections apply only to citizens when it suits your argument. When you do so, your arguments are built on quicksand.

Again, foreign entities were wiretapped because they were suspected of criminal activity. Some of those wiretapped conversations were with American citizens, some of whom worked on Trump's campaign. The collection of Americans conversing with suspected criminal foreign entities was incidental.


Are you serious? Then you think the Constitution created "People"? They were not people before the Constitution confirmed what was already evident for individual freedom & liberty.

Words have meaning and if they wanted it to only be applied to Citizens, they would have used that word. They did elsewhere to define the difference. Now you want to apply it here and change People to Citizen?
The right to keep & bear arms, does not only apply to citizens. But I bet you think it does.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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Sorry to burst your bubble.
American to American communications almost exclusively were logged and contained in the spread sheet
First she denied it over and over... Then the truth came out and she fessed up and said it was all legal, when NSA watchdogs withing the agency said it wasn't.


“The lawyers and counsel at the NSA surely would be talking to the lawyers and members of counsel at CIA, or at the National Security Council or at the Director of National Intelligence or at the FBI,” he said. “It’s unbelievable of the level and degree of the administration to look for information on Donald Trump and his associates, his campaign team and his transition team. This is really, really serious stuff.”
Michael Doran, former NSC senior director, told The DCNF Monday that “somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.” This “was a stream of information that was supposed to be hermetically sealed from politics and the Obama administration found a way to blow a hole in that wall,” he said.

Fox News and Bloomberg News, citing multiple sources reported that Rice had requested and received the intelligence information that was produced in a highly organized operation. The names of Trump aides were given to officials at the National Security Council (NSC), the Department of Defense, James Clapper, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, and John Brennan, Obama’s CIA Director to search for all communications they have had.
Sorry, but obfuscation won't work.

American to foreigner communications were what were logged. And you have zip to contradict that.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:08 AM
 
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That isn't what I asked.

I asked if you think his tweet was untrue? How so?
Until then, quit wetting the bed over it.
Maybe you should specify which tweet?

In the meantime, I stand by what I post.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Are you serious? Then you think the Constitution created "People"? They were not people before the Constitution confirmed what was already evident for individual freedom & liberty.
Words have meaning and if they wanted it to only be applied to Citizens, they would have used that word. They did elsewhere to define the difference. Now you want to apply it here and change People to Citizen?
The right to keep & bear arms, does not only apply to citizens. But I bet you think it does.
I believe the founders realized they were creating something new in government that was dedicated to creating perfection. The preamble starts out, "We The People of the United States, In Order to Form a More Perfect Union . . ."
Therefore they were not issuing a government for the world, but for this nation and its citizens.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Sorry, but obfuscation won't work.

American to foreigner communications were what were logged. And you have zip to contradict that.

That would be a lie. Got an occurrence to substantiate your lies? How about a hint? Even a link to something would help.

Until then what has been found out to be true is, American to American communications almost exclusively were logged and contained in the spread sheets.

First she denied it over and over... Then the truth came out and she fessed up and said it was all legal, when NSA watchdogs withing the agency said it wasn't.


“The lawyers and counsel at the NSA surely would be talking to the lawyers and members of counsel at CIA, or at the National Security Council or at the Director of National Intelligence or at the FBI,” he said. “It’s unbelievable of the level and degree of the administration to look for information on Donald Trump and his associates, his campaign team and his transition team. This is really, really serious stuff.”
Michael Doran, former NSC senior director, told The DCNF Monday that “somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.” This “was a stream of information that was supposed to be hermetically sealed from politics and the Obama administration found a way to blow a hole in that wall,” he said.

Fox News and Bloomberg News, citing multiple sources reported that Rice had requested and received the intelligence information that was produced in a highly organized operation. The names of Donald Trump, his associates, his campaign team, his transition team and all aides were given to officials at the National Security Council (NSC), the Department of Defense, James Clapper, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence, and John Brennan, Obama’s CIA Director to search for all communications they have had among themselves and other Americans.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:16 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Maybe you should specify which tweet?

In the meantime, I stand by what I post.

The one in question, that started your obsession. Scroll back, if you have that short of a memory.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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Until then what has been found out to be true is, American to American communications almost exclusively were logged and contained in the spread sheets.

This is the lie. And you've posted nothing to support your lie.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:22 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I believe the founders realized they were creating something new in government that was dedicated to creating perfection. The preamble starts out, "We The People of the United States, In Order to Form a More Perfect Union . . ."
Therefore they were not issuing a government for the world, but for this nation and its citizens.

Civil liberties existed before the Bill of Rights was created. The Bill of Rights doesn't grant privileges. It defines what already existed, to be free with liberty.

When it says people, it means all people(what makes you not a person?) If you are in bondage, incarcerated or dead, you are not a person.
Citizens is a more defined description of people. Classifying a person as the subject of the state, that has consented to be governed.
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Old 12-29-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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The one in question, that started your obsession. Scroll back, if you have that short of a memory.
I asked you a question. Evidently you cannot answer it. Shame.
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