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Old 12-31-2017, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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When I was growing up, California had 11 million people.

Now it supposedly has 38 million people.

The state has changed from a beautiful, well-run, moderately conservative state into an overcrowded, semi-Third-World hell hole.

So I sympathize with the NIMBY attitude.

People complain about Californians moving to other states and screwing them up.

What about all the people who moved to California and screwed it up?
I don't complain about conservatives leaving California - - I can't wait until the door hits them in the ass.
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Old 12-31-2017, 03:45 AM
 
Location: NC
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I don't complain about conservatives leaving California - - I can't wait until the door hits them in the ass.

so, you want California to get even worse?
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Old 12-31-2017, 04:08 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Republican states like Mississippi, Alabama and West Virginia are in a much worse recession than California.

9 years after recession began, some states still unrecovered - Chicago Tribune
When California was a Republican State, things there were much better. It was the Democrats (liberalism) that destroyed it. Jerry Brown has made it a socialist state. It is a perfect example of what socialism does. The rich survive while the poor and homeless increase along with crime and violence. Gangs rule the streets of L.A. and even parts of San Diego are not immune. That's why we left, and also because of the quickly rising cost of living.
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Old 12-31-2017, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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Well then keep raising those taxes.

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You know what's funny? In the 20+ years of California bashing, how liberal they are, how over taxed they are....

They are still the worlds 8th largest economy and an agricultural giant in the U.S.

Funny how all this bashing is, when places in deep red states are like- oh, 3rd world country-ish.. Poor health indexes, high rates of poverty, low educational attainment....

Jealousy?
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Old 12-31-2017, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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I don't complain about conservatives leaving California - - I can't wait until the door hits them in the ass.
In CA , the few Republicans seem like the adults in the room with a bunch of whiney children to deal with .. the "Resistance Left"
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Old 12-31-2017, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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When California was a Republican State, things there were much better. It was the Democrats (liberalism) that destroyed it. Jerry Brown has made it a socialist state. It is a perfect example of what socialism does. The rich survive while the poor and homeless increase along with crime and violence. Gangs rule the streets of L.A. and even parts of San Diego are not immune. That's why we left, and also because of the quickly rising cost of living.
Proof? Or is that just the "gut feeling" of a guy who lives 2400 miles away from the state
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Old 12-31-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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so, you want California to get even worse?
Being replaced by successful liberals? I'll take that exchange every day and twice on Sunday.
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Old 12-31-2017, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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In CA , the few Republicans seem like the adults in the room with a bunch of whiney children to deal with .. the "Resistance Left"
I see a bunch of posts in this very thread that make "Republican" and "adult" a laughable connection.

There's no border wall connected to Arizona - - you're free to go whenever it gets too much for you.
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:00 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Proof? Or is that just the "gut feeling" of a guy who lives 2400 miles away from the state
I did say we left San Diego. That means I lived there. I lived there for 30 years. My wife is a native San Diegan, and she wanted out long before she convinced me to leave.

Proof? Yeah, I have proof. Personal experience.

Besides the fact that I have read about the shortage of affordable housing in San Diego. Tract homes like the one we bought in 1972 for $21,500 aren't being built anymore. Builders can't make a profit on that type of home anymore, I read.

We had remodeled our house once in 1980 and doubled it's size. The remodel cost about $25,000. That house now is worth over $500,000, and it's just a 3BR 2 Bath, still a tract home ...not that fancy (except for the beautiful 'great room' with vaulted ceiling and rough sawn exposed 4x6 rafters and tongue & groove spruce boards that we added). Still, the area is the same, and most homes today still look the same as ours did before we remodeled. They are all in the $500 K + range.

Gang violence is everywhere. What convinced me to leave was that the gangs were even in our once quiet neighborhood. One night we heard shouting and a loud car screaming down to the end of the cul-de-sac, and coming back, with some dude brandishing a gun out the window. That did it.

Proof? Yeah, I've got proof. San Diego isn't what it was when I settled there after being discharged from the Navy.
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Our economy as a nation continues to improve, so will California's. Yes, they are in debt, and yes their tax structure, and costs of living are unreasonably high, but there will be no recession isolated to CA. We are due for economic growth as a nation, and it is occurring right now.
California's economy isn't going to improve until Jerry Brown is out of office, if the don't elect another "progressive" (Marxist-socialist) Governor.
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