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Old 12-28-2017, 10:34 PM
 
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And it's not just Russia. Trump is doing so many things that Republicans would explode over if a Democrat did it.

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Old 12-28-2017, 10:35 PM
 
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Sounds like a guilty man talking, doesn't it?
No. You misrepresented what he said. He was quoting Dershowitz.
 
Old 12-28-2017, 10:35 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Sounds like a guilty man talking, doesn't it? Look how far we've come:

1. First the Trumpsters said "there were no meetings with any Russians."
2. Then it became "okay some Russians were around but we didn't collude with them." It's a "nothingburger" they said.
3. Don Jr. releases his e-mails that say he welcomed Russian dirt on Hillary. Now it's, "okay, we worked with them but everything in the dossier is false."
4. Trump: Okay, even if we did collude, it's not a crime.

Changing story over time. A sure sign of guilt.

Trump: Even if there was collusion with Russia, 'it
The only people who colluded were Obama with the wire taps, The DNC with the Russians and the dossier. And about 4 million illegal immigrants and dead voters.
 
Old 12-28-2017, 10:36 PM
 
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I think it makes sense to take that and interpret it as guilty . . . .
No, it doesn't, because he was quoting someone else.
 
Old 12-28-2017, 10:40 PM
 
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4. Trump: Okay, even if we did collude, it's not a crime.
from mueller's appointment letter:
"(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; ..."
 
Old 12-28-2017, 10:43 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Oh, so you must be privy to every detail within the Mueller investigation. Otherwise, how can you make such assertions ? That's right, facts are so boring, so much better to go with what your leader tells you.
Mueller runs a tight ship.
 
Old 12-28-2017, 11:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
Sounds like a guilty man talking, doesn't it? Look how far we've come:

1. First the Trumpsters said "there were no meetings with any Russians."
2. Then it became "okay some Russians were around but we didn't collude with them." It's a "nothingburger" they said.
3. Don Jr. releases his e-mails that say he welcomed Russian dirt on Hillary. Now it's, "okay, we worked with them but everything in the dossier is false."
4. Trump: Okay, even if we did collude, it's not a crime.

Changing story over time. A sure sign of guilt.

Trump: Even if there was collusion with Russia, 'it
Charges for collusion only really come from anti trust activities , the likes we only find in the business world. Not so much in the political sphere. Obstruction of justice in firing Comey to halt or stop the investigation is viable but as with everything else, evidence must be shown that a particular provision or statute was violated.
 
Old 12-28-2017, 11:08 PM
 
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Sounds like a guilty man talking, doesn't it? Look how far we've come:

1. First the Trumpsters said "there were no meetings with any Russians."
2. Then it became "okay some Russians were around but we didn't collude with them." It's a "nothingburger" they said.
3. Don Jr. releases his e-mails that say he welcomed Russian dirt on Hillary. Now it's, "okay, we worked with them but everything in the dossier is false."
4. Trump: Okay, even if we did collude, it's not a crime.

Changing story over time. A sure sign of guilt.

Trump: Even if there was collusion with Russia, 'it
How can you be guilty of something that isn't a crime?

Trump is just trolling you guys, and I'm enjoying that immensely.
 
Old 12-28-2017, 11:11 PM
 
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I notice that seems to be Trump's new response: No collusion but if there is, it's not a crime! It's as if Trump expects to be found colluding with Russia.

If the president of the country can legally: collude with another country and have that country use numerous criminal acts to get this president - who would be a puppet - elected, then the country is too far gone to save.
Trump wasn't president at the time of the so-called collusion.

I remember in a campaign speech he joked that maybe Russia had all of Hillary's emails and it would be great if they released them. Nobody said a thing about that.

It was only after he was elected that the non-crime of collusion came up. Democrats just can't lose gracefully.
 
Old 12-28-2017, 11:19 PM
 
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Trump wasn't president at the time of the so-called collusion.

I remember in a campaign speech he joked that maybe Russia had all of Hillary's emails and it would be great if they released them. Nobody said a thing about that.

It was only after he was elected that the non-crime of collusion came up. Democrats just can't lose gracefully.
Actually it was when Trump fired Comey and went on camera and said he fired Comey because of Russia. Then met with Russians and told them he got rid of Comey and there was nothing more to worry about. And when the FBI this summer warned Trump about Russia and Trump's campaign already four or five members talking to Russia. And when Trump had a campaign member, Paul Manafort, getting paid to further Russia's interests. And Paul Flynn. And Kushner, etc. Trump brought all this on himself. Even Bannon says Trump firing Comey was biggest mistake in modern political history.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...-firing-242549
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