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Old 12-30-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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Now, before some chime in with the usual arguments defending these dress codes, one of the major complaints in some of these cases, and rightfully so, is how inconsistent these codes are enforced.

The black guy with the sneakers was refused entry, but other white guys with sneakers were allowed in. And so it goes in several other such cases. So sorry, telling these people to just get over it and go somewhere else just doesn't cut it.

If you're going to have a 'dress code,' then enforce it for all people.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/d-c-...191303174.html

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A restaurant has fired a bouncer and reversed its dress code policy after allegations that a customer was racially discriminated against for wearing sneakers.

Earlier this week, Ayyaz Rashid the managing partner of El Centro D.F., a Washington, D.C., restaurant told the Root that the bouncer who tried to prevent Brian Gordon, a black man, from entering because of his leather Converse high-tops had been terminated.
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Old 12-30-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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Meh, I'm a white guy that was once refused entry into a club because I was wearing sneakers.
What did I do? I went home and changed shoes.
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Old 12-30-2017, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Now, before some chime in with the usual arguments defending these dress codes, one of the major complaints in some of these cases, and rightfully so, is how inconsistent these codes are enforced.

The black guy with the sneakers was refused entry, but other white guys with sneakers were allowed in. And so it goes in several other such cases. So sorry, telling these people to just get over it and go somewhere else just doesn't cut it.

If you're going to have a 'dress code,' then enforce it for all people.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/d-c-...191303174.html
I agree. Its a shame we had to come to this point, but that's only because of how shameful the sometimes double standard of enforcement of these dress codes have been.

I've definitely witnessed differences in enforcement of dress code where the only discernible difference seemed to be the race of the individual. And my experience does not extend to club/dining establishments.

One vivid memory I have outside of the dining/club experience was when I was a law student and officer in a student organization. We'd host weekly speaker events (truth be told, most people came for the free food, but that's another story!). Campus police once attempted to remove a local black woman who I had invited to the event from the building; she came to most of our speaker events . . . again, likely just for the food, but she filled a seat and asked questions, which was very welcome! Their excuse was that she was a "vagrant," which they could tell by her clothing, etc. (she had on jeans and a denim hat). Of course, I wasn't having any of it, especially as other, non-black guests were in street clothes, too. The officer tried to get testy with me, but I warned him that I'd report him to the dean if he didn't back down

Now, where I diverge with some others on this issue is that I won't automatically say this is a systemic problem (though it happens far too frequently for me to be comfortable with . . . and once would be too frequent in my book), as that's not what I believe and that's not what the evidence I've seen shows.
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Old 12-30-2017, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Meh, I'm a white guy that was once refused entry into a club because I was wearing sneakers.
What did I do? I went home and changed shoes.
Well it didn't take long...

I'm 100% sure you'll be raising hell is you went to a business and the dress code only applied to white folks...
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Old 12-30-2017, 10:33 PM
 
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“A bouncer” and this is news because?
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Old 12-30-2017, 11:09 PM
 
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Well it didn't take long...

I'm 100% sure you'll be raising hell is you went to a business and the dress code only applied to white folks...

So you're 100% you know me? I changed shoes and got in. If I thought it was geared toward being a white folk I would simple spend my money elsewhere.
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Old 01-01-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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So you're 100% you know me? I changed shoes and got in. If I thought it was geared toward being a white folk I would simple spend my money elsewhere.
No you wouldn't. You would raise hell.
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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I once had a bouncer deny a friend and I entry to a hispanic bar specifically because we were white. He said it was for our safety and he was doing us a favor. lol
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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The race card is thrown around so much that it can minimalize the seriousness of when something is a legitimate race issue.
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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I have been in many restaurants that have dress codes and I have frequently seen people who do not meet the dress code admitted.

The restaurants should either enforce the dress code 100% or change it.
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