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Old 12-30-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Gee, who knew the GOP was so progressive?

It became that party in 2008.
Obama was the first real divider .. divided as he was taught in the black power church he attended along with 6,000 others who were preached to about the plight of blacks and hate toward whites... they even mocked Hillary as thinking she would become president because she was white and an elitist..

Obama used poor against rich, black against white, blacks against police, women against men , any social issue Obama could think of. The race card is still being played. The hate card is now in full play against our president regardless of the good things he is doing for our economy.. They put hate above all else.

The global movement of the socialists and radicals is now completely infiltrated the democratic party. They have been had. They are not the democratic party since Obama was president. The transformation has taken place in their party.
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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But he beat him in ALABAMA! A deep red, right wing Evangelical stronghold. You can keep pretending this is insignificant if you like, everybody has a right to an opinion.
Lefties screamed frantically for weeks that if Alabama elected Moore it meant the GOP was a bunch of pedophile supporters, and then when they eek out a win they start using it as proof that people are turning on Trump and the GOP as a whole. You argue like children.

Was Alabama about rejecting an accused pedophile or was it about stealing a normally safe senate seat from the GOP? Before the election I said it was the latter and the talking points coming from the left in the wake of the election seem to indicate I was correct. They don't even mention the accusations against Moore anymore and just pretend Alabama voters decided to reject Trump. Nonsense and you know it.
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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Obama and his so called church who used hate and division of the races and classes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg4P6dLFUkQ&t=126s
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:19 PM
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Obama was the first real divider .. divided as he was taught in the black power church he attended along with 6,000 others who were preached to about the plight of blacks and hate toward whites... they even mocked Hillary as thinking she would become president because she was white and an elitist..

Obama used poor against rich, black against white, blacks against police, women against men , any social issue Obama could think of. The race card is still being played. The hate card is now in full play against our president regardless of the good things he is doing for our economy.. They put hate above all else.

The global movement of the socialists and radicals is now completely infiltrated the democratic party. They have been had. They are not the democratic party since Obama was president. The transformation has taken place in their party.
Even if you believe that to be true which I don't, Trump has taken divisiveness and the spread of hatred and false information to astronomical levels never seem before.(swallowed whole by the under educated on team Trump).
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:20 PM
 
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All the Republicans have to do is pass a healthcare bill, and an infrastructure bill, and they will keep their seats in congress, if not gain seats.
You may be right. But how likely is it, for the Republicans to succeed in passing these bills... and even more importantly, passing good and substantial bills (as opposed to bad or trivial ones)?

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...Doug Jones barely beat an accused pedophile. It should have been a landslide.
Didn't we all just remind ourselves, that Roy Moore was merely accused - and not indicted - let alone convicted?... and that his accusers were at least partially discredited? And that many voters regarded the accusation against him as a partisan smear-job? That being the case, his defeat was not all foreordained.

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...Democrats have no policies other than "impeach" and having to deal with the downslide of the Democratic Party.
You too may be right. But I'd aver, that it is better to have in power a party lacking any ideas, policies or animating principles of government... than to have a party whose ideas are pernicious, baleful and idiotic.
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Even if you believe that to be true which I don't, Trump has taken divisiveness and the spread of hatred and false information to astronomical levels never seem before.(swallowed whole by the under educated on team Trump).
Not at all. Trump said I am not set in concrete . I am flexible.. Depends on what has developed and then President Trump reassesses the situation. President Trump cares more about Americans and doesn't give a damn about the MSM.

Trump is a negotiator and working for the best possible answer . He takes different routes to achieve his goals... President Trump is not beholden to one way to get things done. President Trump is the best of all the presidents I have seen in my lifetime. JFK was a great negotiator during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Because Trump is not set in concrete MSM attacks him.. he is his own man and will meet his goals with many paths to take. Too bad MSM.. you are so stupid. Can't figure out a fact from an opinion spoken by our President.
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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Didn't we all just remind ourselves, that Roy Moore was merely accused - and not indicted - let alone convicted?... and that his accusers were at least partially discredited? And that many voters regarded the accusation against him as a partisan smear-job? That being the case, his defeat was not all foreordained.
You are correct, of course, Moore has simply been accused. Unfortunately, we now live in a world where an unsubstantiated accusation can end one's career. It's ended other people's careers - there's no reason to believe Moore wouldn't suffer the same fate.
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Old 12-30-2017, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Obama was the first real divider .. divided as he was taught in the black power church he attended along with 6,000 others who were preached to about the plight of blacks and hate toward whites... they even mocked Hillary as thinking she would become president because she was white and an elitist..

Obama used poor against rich, black against white, blacks against police, women against men , any social issue Obama could think of. The race card is still being played. The hate card is now in full play against our president regardless of the good things he is doing for our economy.. They put hate above all else.

The global movement of the socialists and radicals is now completely infiltrated the democratic party. They have been had. They are not the democratic party since Obama was president. The transformation has taken place in their party.
All of this written above is pure nonsensical babbling of the worse kind. Trump is an admitted sympathizer to Nazi’s and white nationals. Don’t take it from me, just listen to our dear incompetent leader Donny boy himself. Trump is not a closet racist, he’s proud of it. Unlike his brainless worshippers, it’s not something most Americans support. Just check the polls.
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Old 12-30-2017, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that Evangelical types are as offended by pedophilia as anyone else, if not more so. The Dems suffered a rude awakening when Clinton lost to Trump. To this day, the Democratic party comes up with all sorts of wild excuses why they lost, even though the real reason is as clear as it can be. Same thing with Alabama. There's a really valuable lesson to be learned, but the Dems are so giddy with joy that they actually won something, they're missing the bigger picture: They lost to a friggin' accused pedophile. Whether you agree or not, that's a huge red flag indicating that something is seriously wrong with the Democratic party.
Surely you aren't trying to suggest that everything is just fine with the GOP.

It's not just Alabama. Democrats have won pretty much every election the last few months. I'm afraid it's the Republicans, specifically the Trump supporters, who are missing the big picture. You are in some serious denial regarding your party.
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Old 12-30-2017, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Lefties screamed frantically for weeks that if Alabama elected Moore it meant the GOP was a bunch of pedophile supporters, and then when they eek out a win they start using it as proof that people are turning on Trump and the GOP as a whole. You argue like children.

Was Alabama about rejecting an accused pedophile or was it about stealing a normally safe senate seat from the GOP? Before the election I said it was the latter and the talking points coming from the left in the wake of the election seem to indicate I was correct. They don't even mention the accusations against Moore anymore and just pretend Alabama voters decided to reject Trump. Nonsense and you know it.
The Dems have won more than just Alabama recently. Guess you forgot that.
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