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Old 12-31-2017, 04:15 PM
 
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I'm not a fan of Trump's but I really don't think he had a clue at the beginning. His staff is way more clever than he and they knew it wouldn't be prudent to let him know what was going on.

Having said that -- since then -- meh -- I'm pretty sure Trump has been told the details. I don't think he is smart enough to be knowingly guilty of anything....that is my truth......but that doesn't mean we shouldn't figure it out -- get it sorted and move on.

No I don't think he will be found guilty of anything -- except unless he did cover something up - but that's not his style. He's not that clever - -he would have for sure said or done something to prove his guilt. He's not that sophisticated.
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Old 12-31-2017, 04:25 PM
 
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How the Russia Inquiry Began with night of heavy drinking at upscale London bar & lead to FBI probe.


A night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

The revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/u...adopoulos.html


'Kensington Wine Rooms' near Kensington Palace.

FBI's Donald Trump Russia probe was 'sparked by drink in London wine bar' - Telegraph

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Old 12-31-2017, 04:35 PM
 
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I'm not a fan of Trump's but I really don't think he had a clue at the beginning. His staff is way more clever than he and they knew it wouldn't be prudent to let him know what was going on.

Having said that -- since then -- meh -- I'm pretty sure Trump has been told the details. I don't think he is smart enough to be knowingly guilty of anything....that is my truth......but that doesn't mean we shouldn't figure it out -- get it sorted and move on.

No I don't think he will be found guilty of anything -- except unless he did cover something up - but that's not his style. He's not that clever - -he would have for sure said or done something to prove his guilt. He's not that sophisticated.
Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance. Sun Tzu

Only 44 other men in 200 plus years have achieved what Trump has. If becoming a multi-billionaire was so easy there should be one per sq. mile.
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Old 12-31-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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How the Russia Inquiry Began with night of heavy drinking at upscale London bar & lead to FBI probe.


A night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

The revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/u...adopoulos.html
seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..

seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..

seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..

seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..

seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..


hmmm glad to see PHMA agrees,
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Old 12-31-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..

seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..

seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..

seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..

seems to me that this destroys the Right wing narrative that the dossier is the reason the investigation began..


hmmm glad to see PHMA agrees,
Looks like an after class punishment.

Write a fantasy on the blackboard x amount of times and hope it comes true.
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Old 12-31-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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Looks like an after class punishment.
It's not that a punishment, indeed I heard they do a lovely Chablis and the Borolo is not bad either, whilst the Burrata & black truffle tortolloni, cucumber, vegetable is very decent.
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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Looks like an after class punishment.

Write a fantasy on the blackboard x amount of times and hope it comes true.
lol those damn facts getting in the way again Phma? Aussies have confirmed they tipped off the FBI!

A lesser man might gloat at this point... You guys put so much work into building a fake attack on mueller's source for the investigation. endless posts, endless tweets, endless lies and fake news stories on fox, breitfart etc..

Mueller has crushed yet another made up attack. dossier no longer matters what you guys gonna make up next?
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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I'm still at a loss at how handing over information to the FBI is a bad move. Or why the FBI should not check out such information passed their way.

The FBI is supposed to look into shady situations. Why would they not check out the information included in the dossier?

Given that it was pulled together by an ex-British spy, one would expect they would at least give it more than a passing glance.

Apparently, they already had a heads up from the Australians.

I'd be willing to bet my tax cut that this wasn't the only heads up they got.

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Old 01-01-2018, 09:10 PM
 
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I'm not a fan of Trump's but I really don't think he had a clue at the beginning. His staff is way more clever than he and they knew it wouldn't be prudent to let him know what was going on.

Having said that -- since then -- meh -- I'm pretty sure Trump has been told the details. I don't think he is smart enough to be knowingly guilty of anything....that is my truth......but that doesn't mean we shouldn't figure it out -- get it sorted and move on.

No I don't think he will be found guilty of anything -- except unless he did cover something up - but that's not his style. He's not that clever - -he would have for sure said or done something to prove his guilt. He's not that sophisticated.
The idea that Trump isn't sophisticated or clever enough to catch on to what was going on all around him is a stretch. But perhaps so.

In any case, he's known for at least a year now.

Either he is dumber than a stump, which I don't believe for a second, or he knew what was going on then and is in up to his elbows now.
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