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Old 01-01-2018, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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20 feds vs. 1100 new local hires, new tech, etc.. Statistically speaking, what likely had more of an effect? But who knows.
There are only five districts that have very high crime rates. The numbers dropped during the second half of the year after the Feds arrived and only dropped in two of the five districts.

The 1,100 new hires they keep talking about only replaced people they had promoted who weren't going to be on patrol anymore. So it didn't result in 1,100 additional officers. See how sneaky the top brass is with their language?
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Old 01-01-2018, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Despite being a violent, liberal city, Trump is having a positive effect on the city nearly destroyed and bankrupted by Obama and liberal cronies. With Trump's unwavering support of the police and his threats to send the Feds in, homicides are down 16% this year. Finally we are starting to solve this crisis!
Really? Because someone said they'd send the feds in, that made criminals back off? Because someone said? When has that ever worked?
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:41 PM
 
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Clearly people here celebrate the 650 number as some kind of accomplishment of Trump, which means they think he owns it. The truth is 650 murders is not a good number, as it is above average of the recent years.
I don't know if it had to do with Trump. You don't get it. I don't care about averages, that's your schtick. It is less than the prior year, meaning someone/s who might have been dead is/are not. I am not celebrating anything other than a smaller number of dead people than the year before. Hopefully this year will be even less. Whatever anyone does to drive the numbers down is good for those who would otherwise be dead and their families. So if 650 is less than the year before that is a good thing no matter how you want to spin it.
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Old 01-02-2018, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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650 is nothing to celebrate when the annual average has been less than 500.

It is bizarre to see people rip Obama when Chicago murders were 441, and then celebrate when its 650 under Trump, but we see the same trend in everything like employment numbers where 300K gain was 'pathetic' under Obama, but 200K is 'awesome' under Trump.

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Old 01-02-2018, 04:32 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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Despite being a violent, liberal city, Trump is having a positive effect on the city nearly destroyed and bankrupted by Obama and liberal cronies. With Trump's unwavering support of the police and his threats to send the Feds in, homicides are down 16% this year. Finally we are starting to solve this crisis!




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Old 01-02-2018, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Despite being a violent, liberal city, Trump is having a positive effect on the city nearly destroyed and bankrupted by Obama and liberal cronies. With Trump's unwavering support of the police and his threats to send the Feds in, homicides are down 16% this year. Finally we are starting to solve this crisis!
Number of shooting victims increased. Fewer fatal shootings.

1000 new officers were hired.

Trump, like Obama, has no influence on shootings anywhere in the US.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I don't know if it had to do with Trump. You don't get it. I don't care about averages, that's your schtick. It is less than the prior year, meaning someone/s who might have been dead is/are not. I am not celebrating anything other than a smaller number of dead people than the year before. Hopefully this year will be even less. Whatever anyone does to drive the numbers down is good for those who would otherwise be dead and their families. So if 650 is less than the year before that is a good thing no matter how you want to spin it.
Shooting victims increased. Fewer died.

Many are permanently disabled/ disfigured.
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:19 AM
 
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Number of shooting victims increased.
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Many are permanently disabled/ disfigured.
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Trump is having a positive effect on the city ...Finally we are starting to solve this crisis!
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Old 01-02-2018, 05:47 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Despite being a violent, liberal city, Trump is having a positive effect on the city nearly destroyed and bankrupted by Obama and liberal cronies. With Trump's unwavering support of the police and his threats to send the Feds in, homicides are down 16% this year. Finally we are starting to solve this crisis!
Donald Trumps policies will increase Chicago's murder rate, leave Chicago police without the proper training and equipment, and then bankrupt Chicago.

Chicago's murder rate is directly connected to poverty. And Trump's budget makes deep cuts to food assistance programs, utility assistance programs, and programs that assist needy families. And all those budget cuts will leave low income Chicago residents with less money, and some of them will resort to crime to make up for that lost income (increasing murder rates.)
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...ms-for-low-and

Trumps budget also cuts funding for local first responders and police departments. Trumps budget cuts "mean lost opportunities for first-responder training and harder choices about what protective gear and equipment communities can afford to provide first responders." And this will cause law enforcement officers to be less prepared and equipped in deadly situations (limiting police actions against violent crimes.)
Trump

Trumps budget will also take $100's of millions of dollars from Illinois (leaving Chicago with less money and giving Chicago more debt.)
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/pr...eeze-illinois/


Under Trumps policies the money from the budget cuts for Chicago will be transferred to the richest 1% of Americans via tax cuts.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno...nalysis-finds/
Trump Hands 80 Percent of Proposed Tax Cut to Top 1 Percent – Mother Jones

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Old 01-02-2018, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Oh yeah, Donald Trump speaks and suddenly the gangs in Chicago are so scared they stop killing each other ! Just like how Trump has scared that little thug in NK.............I haven't heard of a missile being launched in about 15 minutes or so.
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