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Old 01-07-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
The media is simply reporting on the hate that has been fostered and fed by Trump himself from the very moment he threw his hat into the ring, through the primaries, through the presidential campaign, through his first year in office, right on through to this moment.

Everyone knows that when there is a problem spiraling out of control it is imperative that you figure out the root cause and then deal with it.

Trump is the root cause in this case.
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Originally Posted by Wayland Woman View Post
The media is not the problem. It's the level of incompetency in Trump himself that is causing the hatred of Trump in the GENERAL POPULATION. The media is just reporting what they see. Trump is trying to run the country like a Reality TV show and his fans refuse to acknowledge that his modus operandi of pitying people and institutions against each other is causing instability in our country and in the world.
"Hate" has come to mean what is against liberal political agendas. It's nothing more, and as such its lost any semblance of meaning. That's what happens when you reduce political debate to feelings based shaming and name calling.

 
Old 01-07-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: USA
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Why even read this hate rag? The President himself said it's fake. What a joke.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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You have just aptly explained Trump's trajectory from the primaries through to today. Do you not recall the name calling Trump engaged in with virtually every competitor he had during his short time in politics? Him ridiculing Carly Fiorina's looks? Him trying to shame Ted Cruz's wife?

He set the tone. Time for the cult to own it instead of pretending otherwise.
He ABSOLUTELY set the tone. Trump can dish it out but he cannot take it.

As per usual, Trump's problems are all of his own making whilst trying to lay blame everywhere else.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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The head of the CIA, Pompeo, says TRump is totally capable to lead this country, and the book is absurd pure fantasy.
CIA boss Pompeo vehemently defends Trump against 'Fire and Fury,' calls book 'absurd' | Fox News

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I'm with him almost every day,” Pompeo told “Fox News Sunday.” “We talk about some of the most serious matters facing America and the rest of the world, complex issues. The president is engaged. He understands the complexity, asks really difficult questions from our team at CIA. I've watched him do that.”

Statements likes the one Mr. Wolff made about how we all think about the president are just ridiculous and frankly beneath the conversation this morning,” Pompeo told show host Chris Wallace. “They are the conversation because you're [the media] making them the conversation.”
 
Old 01-07-2018, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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If he made stuff up, he doesn't necessarily have a right to publish it without getting sued. I realize you liberals think you can win at all costs, but remember, Barry Goldwater sued a magazine in the sixties for claiming he was psychologically unfit to be President and won.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_v._Ginzburg
Now, it's possible that both Wolff and his publisher's legal department together have the IQ of a box of rocks. But just for giggles, assume that both Wolff and his publisher's legal department have normal intelligence. If Wolff has the tapes and notes to back up his quotes, he's judgement proof. Because apparently all he's done is quote other people. Even if his quoting is selective - as long as he has the notes to back it up, he's good.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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That's what happens when you reduce political debate to feelings based shaming and name calling.

i'd love to just keep to the facts of the topic. we know that michael wolff was given access to the west wing to observe and conduct interviews for a book. "fire and fury" is that book.

so far, the only specific in the book i've seen challenged:

* wolff claimed that kellyanne conway was a pollster that never worked on a national campaign. a right-wing blog disputes this saying conway did work for national campaigns.... as a pollster. seems like it may be an issue of semantics or definitions but..... i'm open to hear the evidence from both sides.

* melania's spokesperson claims she was not upset by trump's win. difficult to confirm/debunk without more information.

* trump claims that he authorized "zero access to WH". that appears most likely false since we know wolff did have access.

* trump claims that he "never spoke to [wolff] for a book". wolff claims that he had a total of 3hours of conversations with trump for the book.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 10:22 AM
 
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Pompeo has already been picked by Trump to be the next Secretary of State, as soon as Trump gets rid of Tillerson. Everyone knows that Trump responds well to praise and responds negatively to criticism. Pompeo knows how to stay on the good side of Trump and is publicly praising Trump, in an attempt to deflect from Wolff's book.

It' hilarious to watch these staffers go out and lie and praise Trump - one after the other. Imagine the atmosphere at Camp David this weekend where Trump's raging and telling his underlings to go out there and lie. It's much like what Spicey did when he lied about the inauguration crowd size. And Pompeo's praising/gushing/ring kissing has the same credibility as Spicey's crowd size comments. Everyone knows the underlings are being forced to lie by the stable genius.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Regardless of what you think of DJT, the level of hatred and bias in the media should concern anyone. This is getting out of control.
Actually, what concerns me is the hatred and bias inside the WH.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 10:23 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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I think we have another Wolff who can't go home again.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Originally Posted by golgi1 View Post
"Hate" has come to mean what is against liberal political agendas. It's nothing more, and as such its lost any semblance of meaning. That's what happens when you reduce political debate to feelings based shaming and name calling.
Are you effing kidding me???? Trump's ENTIRE political campaign was based on reducing "...political debate to feelings based shaming and name calling". Did you never watch one of his campaign pep rallies???????
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