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Old 05-14-2018, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by okcthunder1945 View Post
Needed some good news huh...

I would abandon this thread since trying tie the stock market to the economy will ultimately make you look foolish.
I would agree, we just saw the stock market rise while the economy was stagnant during the Obama years.

 
Old 05-14-2018, 06:10 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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I would agree, we just saw the stock market rise while the economy was stagnant during the Obama years.
$18 trillion economies don't turn on a dime, try again.
 
Old 05-14-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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I would agree, we just saw the stock market rise while the economy was stagnant during the Obama years.
Stagnant? -- job growth was steady for 7 and a half years after the recession...same as the last year and a bit.

Stagnant -- do you think we are stagnant now?
 
Old 05-14-2018, 06:11 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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Had you been more informed and perhaps read the thread you would know I was the one making the case, the stock market isn't the economy.

Maybe its time you abandon what you don't know and work on what you do know.
Not according to your original post..... maybe you had to backpedal after starting a thread based on this:

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President Trump is absolutely the greatest on the economy. Dow breaks 25,000

They say it still has room to run !!!!

Go ahead 401K make my day !!!
....whoops.
 
Old 05-14-2018, 06:13 PM
 
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I would agree, we just saw the stock market rise while the economy was stagnant during the Obama years.
I made as much - actually more - during the last 5 year period than I did during the last year - or year to date, etc.

So Trump is a downer at best. Or even-steven. Give him time - he'll ruin more things with his trade "deals".

Inflation is already underway - T-bills at new highs. For those who know, that means when the market goes up we don't make as much (the difference between inflation and return is the net)....

We are lucky that CA and Boston and NYC are pumping the engine of growth and innovation....because without them we'd be in sad shape. The numbers are startling - 4 states in this country represent 80% of venture capital investment. A few states (5 or less) represent an unbelievable amount of high paying jobs...not only in those states, but nationally and internationally.

Some wildcatter in TX or OK might be happy with higher oil prices and may support 60 jobs, but we have companies supporting MILLIONS of jobs.
 
Old 05-14-2018, 06:30 PM
 
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Stagnant? -- job growth was steady for 7 and a half years after the recession...same as the last year and a bit.

Stagnant -- do you think we are stagnant now?
The wages are.
Explain that with near full employment or you could just buy at the high and sell at the low.
 
Old 05-14-2018, 07:06 PM
 
Location: The 719
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When the Trump fans start getting all excited at the stock market again, it will be a sure sign another crash or correction is imminent.
Y'all were crediting Obama on the first ride, and remained pretty silent until things "corrected", then it was back on the Bash-Trump-Train for ya.
 
Old 05-14-2018, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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The market was booming when the economy sucked because of the socialists programs designed to prop it up.
Yep. All the free money from the Fed went right into the market, not into the pockets of Americans. If you came out of the recession with big stock holdings, it was a windfall. If you were broke, not so much.
 
Old 05-15-2018, 01:58 AM
 
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Not according to your original post..... maybe you had to backpedal after starting a thread based on this:


....whoops.
Two statements and two sentences and two separate ideas and both were true but not connected to support each other or idea they were the same. The hook that produced the discussion. Many are quick to react emotionally to what appears on the surface. What's on the surface is often different than what's discovered by going a little deeper.
Looks like its still getting the emotional reaction.

Look at post #4 and #12.

No point in plowing old ground. Anything that is producing taxable income is part of the economy, not the economy.

Last edited by phma; 05-15-2018 at 02:07 AM..
 
Old 05-15-2018, 02:11 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Lol.

Seriously, can we just stop now? We've got people praising Trump for everything from "being the true spirit of Christmas" to "preventing planes from falling out of the sky." The cult-like mindset is no longer funny.

The Dow has been on a strong, steady rise since about late 2009 to 2010. You know, when Obama was in office. Righties refuse to give Obama any credit for any of that, but now have the absurd and hypocritical nerve to somehow try to give credit to Trump for doing basically nothing for 1 out of 7+ years of recovery.

Bull market in stocks is 103 months old. Trump owns 11 of them - Oct. 11, 2017

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johndor.../#6e7a3d336644

Left AND right sources (CNN and Forbes) agree that this type of boot-licking and fact warping is absurd. Either Obama is one of the greatest president we ever had (based on stock market performance) and Trump is "pretty good, too." Or, the recovery under Obama "never happened" - which is a right-wing lie - and Trump can't be credited for it, either... because it never happened.

This laughably partisan and fact-free picking and choosing of reality is exactly why the far-right has lost all credibility.


Dow was flat as a pancake from 2014 until Trump won the election.

Now it's soaring!
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