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Old 01-05-2018, 03:15 PM
 
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When did it get pumped in?
Why ? Are you missing a crumb ?

 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:18 PM
 
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When did it get pumped in?
Recent history lessons ended earlier today.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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Recent history lessons ended earlier today.
I figured you were clueless.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:21 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Trillions was pumped into the markets and you are happy a few crumbs fell your way.
A "few crumbs" may be enough to live off of without having to work a single day again for the rest of your life.

It's all relative.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:23 PM
 
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Why ? Are you missing a crumb ?
Nah, I was just asking because the corporate tax savings hasn't been invested in the market yet. So I'm not sure what these Trump haters are talking about.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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Nah, I was just asking because the corporate tax savings hasn't been invested in the market yet. So I'm not sure what these Trump haters are talking about.
That's a good point.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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His first year does not end until Jan 21, 2018.

So yet again you guys are incorrect.
So you think the Jan report is going to be an addition of 500 thousand jobs.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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So you think the Jan report is going to be an addition of 500 thousand jobs.
It could get close to matching 2011, but it's extremely unlikely to match any other year since. Here are the numbers since 2010. Numbers are in thousands.

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2010 23 -68 164 243 524 -137 -68 -36 -52 262 119 87 1061
2011 43 189 225 346 77 225 69 110 248 209 141 209 2091
2012 358 237 233 78 115 76 143 177 203 146 132 244 2142
2013 211 286 130 197 226 162 122 261 190 212 258 47 2302
2014 190 151 272 329 246 304 202 230 280 227 312 255 2998
2015 234 238 86 262 344 206 254 157 100 321 272 239 2713
2016 126 237 225 153 43 297 291 176 249 124 164 155 2240
2017 216 232 50 207 145 210 138 208 38 211 252 148 2055

Source: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0..._view=net_1mth

If we go from Feb 2017 to December's numbers, we get 1839 (that's 1,839,000 new jobs). In order to match 2011's number, January's number will have to be 252,000, or maybe a smaller number if December is revised up - which is do-able but it would have to be a very good number. That's matching it to other full years Jan-Dec, of course.

The next lowest number is 2012. To match that year's number January's jobs report would have to be 303,00 - which again is possible but would have to be a really good number. To match 2016's number it would have to be 401,000, which is almost certainly not going to happen.

For the best year of the recovery - 2014 - we would have to get a print of 1.159 million jobs added in January, which clearly is not going to happen.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 05:11 PM
 
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President Trump is absolutely the greatest on the economy. Dow breaks 25,000

They say it still has room to run !!!!

Go ahead 401K make my day !!!
The DOW breaking records means that investors are terrified, risk is at an all-time high, and the future is seen as being so unsure that the financial world feels that we may not have a future of which to speak.

No one uses the DOW as an indicator of market success. Before you speak of this in real life, just consider this a tip to avoid appearing ignorant.

Also, what goes up must come down. Soaring market prices inevitably mean only one thing: exactly ten years ago we were all very certain about one thing, and it was not unparalleled market growth.

This time around, we do not have the Obama administration. How well do you believe the Trump presidency to be capable of responding to another financial apocalypse?
 
Old 01-05-2018, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Houston
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When has the P/E ever hit 123? Maybe for one company, but never for the US stock market as a whole.

Right now, the trailing-ten-year P/E for the S&P 500 is at 33. The only time it was higher was during the late 1990s tech bubble.
Yes, it hit 123 in 2009 for the S&P500. Google p/e 90 year historical chart.
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