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That doesn’t make any sense the massive drop has been in the Bronx, Manhattan and Brooklyn, The Bronx which is minority dominated and barely gentrified is putting up near Seattle murder rates and it dropped by far the most compared to Brooklyn and Manhattan.
1990- Bronx 652
2017- Bronx 72
2017- Manhattan 46
2017- Seattle 24
Bronx (1990)- 54 per 100,000
Bronx- 4.94 per 100,000
Manhattan- 2.80 per 100,000
Seattle- 3.95 per 100,000
I personally think the reason is all the big money invested in New York’s schools, and Police Departments. Also the city is so dense that Police are never more than a mile away from a shooting, so when you drastically increase the police force you drastically increase coverage too, compared to other cities. For Manhattan and certain parts of Brooklyn gentrification was key but The Bronx and the Black half of Brooklyn, clearly they were’t gentrified, neither was all of Harlem and Northern part of Manhattan and they have seen the place go from a precinct having 100 murders in a year to an entire Borough struggling to get to 100 murders in a year. Most cities had decreases in murder but clearly this is dramatic AF drop especially for The Bronx.
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That doesn’t make any sense the massive drop has been in the Bronx, Manhattan and Brooklyn, The Bronx which is minority dominated and barely gentrified is putting up near Seattle murder rates and it dropped by far the most compared to Brooklyn and Manhattan.
1990- Bronx 652
2017- Bronx 72
2017- Manhattan 46
2017- Seattle 24
Bronx (1990)- 54 per 100,000
Bronx- 4.94 per 100,000
Manhattan- 2.80 per 100,000
Seattle- 3.95 per 100,000
I personally think the reason is all the big money invested in New York’s schools, and Police Departments. Also the city is so dense that Police are never more than a mile away from a shooting, so when you drastically increase the police force you drastically increase coverage too, compared to other cities. For Manhattan and certain parts of Brooklyn gentrification was key but The Bronx and the Black half of Brooklyn, clearly they were’t gentrified, neither was all of Harlem and Northern part of Manhattan and they have seen the place go from a precinct having 100 murders in a year to an entire Borough struggling to get to 100 murders in a year. Most cities had decreases in murder but clearly this is dramatic AF drop especially for The Bronx.
The police department has shrunk in size since its high. They have downsized by thousands of officers. They also have over 1000 officers assigned to anti terrorism duties. However the police department has gotten better with different technologies and they also are better at allocating resources.
Record low crime, record low crime rates, in one of the most Democratic biased cities in the USA. Stop, bang, or I shoot doesn't work. Red States, take notice. There IS a way to decrease police killings of suspects and innocents AND fight crime effectively.
The proof is in the pudding.
The proof is in the pudding? Clearly, your thread title asserts that crime in NYC is down BECAUSE of the cessation (reduction, actually) of Stop and Frisk. Common sense doesn't support that. Neither does your own link.
The article cites many policing tactics, such as targeting gangs and getting illegal guns off the streets, as contributing to the drop in crime.
In addition, the National Review article cited within that link, and written by a vocal critic of DeBlasio, doesn't even say that. While he acknowledges that the end of SF contributed to the easing of tensions, he also said that crime might well have decreased even WITH Stop and Frisk. But, he wrote, it didn't go up when it was ceased, which is what many DeBlasio critics had expected to happen. In addition, statistics have revealed a 27-year drop in crime there, starting long before SF was pulled.
Your cause and effect theory is all wet.
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