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Old 01-05-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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What we are seeing is the Republican party doing anything and everything they can to protect Trump. We can see in real time republican members of congress deliberately obstructing justice and abandoning all principals all morality to buy time.

this attack will fail. But it will drive more moderates to Dems and help dems retake the house and maybe senate in 2018. so far 29 Rs have said they are leaving at the end of their terms, i suspect that number may double or more.

 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:03 PM
 
Location: United States
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lol, the "new" evidence is almost CERTAINLY from the FBI!

don't you get it. they are taking some half baked BS to try to force Wray to open an investigation.

Wray has whatever they have because the only source who could have provided it is the FBI.

where do you think they got the "new" (to them) evidence . This is for trump, Trump wants everyone not him investigated.
It could be documents from the FBI/DOJ.

Grassley is just making it public that he knows there is evidence that Steele was lying, and may have violated the law.

There is nothing half baked, there is evidence that Steel lied, Grassley is letting everyone know that fact.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:04 PM
 
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Anything to deflect from and protect dementia man.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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What we are seeing is the Republican party doing anything and everything they can to protect Trump. We can see in real time republican members of congress deliberately obstructing justice and abandoning all principals all morality to buy time.
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Buy time for what?
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:07 PM
 
Location: United States
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Anything to deflect from and protect dementia man.
So you want people connected to Trump to be prosecuted for lying while under oath, but not Steele.

Careful your hypocrisy is showing.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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That's what I would like to know!
Guess he lied when he said he would.

What the hell has happened to these people? Remember graham's tough talk on trump? Does trump have kompromat on him?
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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It could be documents from the FBI/DOJ.

Grassley is just making it public that he knows there is evidence that Steele was lying, and may have violated the law.

There is nothing half baked, there is evidence that Steel lied, Grassley is letting everyone know that fact.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.a80969f79ec0

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Their letter makes what is called a criminal referral to the Justice Department, suggesting it investigate the dossier author, former British spy Christopher Steele, for possibly lying to the FBI. It is a crime to lie to FBI agents about a material fact relevant to an ongoing investigation.
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A veteran prosecutor, Peter Zeidenberg, said he had never heard of anything like the Grassley-Graham complaint and labeled it “nonsense” designed to detract from ongoing inquiries in to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

“The FBI doesn’t need any prompting from politicians to prosecute people who have lied to them,” said Zeidenberg, a federal prosecutor for 17 years. While members of Congress make criminal referrals from time to time, they are usually related to independent congressional investigations, not to material already known to the FBI. “They should stay in their lane,” Zeidenberg said of the Grassley-Graham effort.
Umm yeah, so he referred to the same people (the FBI) to whom he lied claims that Steele lied to them. Wouldn't you think the FBI would know about that?

Furthermore- Steele has a pretty long track record of providing intel to the CIA, FBI and other allied governments. He's a 'source'. Not sure how much traction Grassley is really going to get.

Furthermore X2 it greatly appears that the info that Pappy blabbed to the Australian ambassador is what ultimately led to the investigation in the first place, and if that is indeed the case- this referral means about BOO to anything.

It simply looks like partisan maneuvering to try and deflect as much attention away from the investigation as possible, which in my mind is absolutely troubling.

My money is on a republican campaign to discredit the Australian ambassador to be next on their agenda.

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Old 01-05-2018, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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So how are they going to get Steele out of London?
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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It could be documents from the FBI/DOJ.

Grassley is just making it public that he knows there is evidence that Steele was lying, and may have violated the law.

There is nothing half baked, there is evidence that Steel lied, Grassley is letting everyone know that fact.
NO.

Grassley is giving Trump what he has demanded, ie investigations into everyone and anyone to distract from himself and to try to taint the case against him

It is pure political gamesmanship nothing more nothing less. YOU know this.
 
Old 01-05-2018, 03:21 PM
 
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NO.

Grassley is giving Trump what he has demanded, ie investigations into everyone and anyone to distract from himself and to try to taint the case against him

It is pure political gamesmanship nothing more nothing less. YOU know this.
We all know this.
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