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Old 01-07-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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Statistically, we have suffered more terrorism from our own citizens. So if terrorism is a concern, the wall will not help.

This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read.
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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Last I read, border jumpers make up 60% of illegal aliens and visa over stayers only make up 40%. If the latter is increasing, so what? We should address both problems. The wall will address the former and tracking visa over stayers better will address the latter. You only want to address half of the problem? Why? The wall is only $25 billion but illegal aliens cost us over $100 billion every year. Unless you failed math you would be able to figure out that the wall is a bargain.

I excelled at critical thinking AND math. First lesson? Some random person on the internet saying unsubstantiated numbers does not equal facts.

YOU may be fine taking Trumps tweets as facts, but they are not - he is famous for making stuff up, can't even follow his own prepared speech. How many times does he have to be caught in out right misinformation? I'm not sure which is worse: 1) blatant liar; or, 2) really, really dumb.

Listen, I would love for him to do well, it's our country and our well being, but so far, ain't happening.
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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Could you please provide a quote for me on those?
Isn't that the standard refrain of Trump supporters- that the economy is the best ever and he's an economic genius? So are there plenty of jobs for Americans willing to work, or are undocumented immigrants causing a work shortage?
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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Isn't that the standard refrain of Trump supporters- that the economy is the best ever and he's an economic genius? So are there plenty of jobs for Americans willing to work, or are undocumented immigrants causing a work shortage?
So, you admit you just make things up. Good to know. The first thing is admitting you have a problem.
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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Illegal immigration from Mexico is down, illegal immigration from Asia and Central America is up.

So say the wall stops the Mexicans and Central Americans...... whatcha gonna do about the Asians?

Hmmmm, maybe another wall up our coastlines?
Maybe a Mr. Burns-style dome? Let's be honest, a lot of people already act like they're living in a bubble with their own versions of reality.
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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And they will pay for the wall.


They may not turn over pesos, but indeed, they will pay for the wall, as Trump says, one way or another.
*SIGH*

It ain’t gonna happen.
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:07 PM
 
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Maybe a Mr. Burns-style dome? Let's be honest, a lot of people already act like they're living in a bubble with their own versions of reality.
Like when they falsely make claims that a person believes or says something based on nothing more than convenient assumptions?
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read.
It's 100% true. Native-born Americans are more likely to commit terrorism than foreign immigrants. One of the reasons for that is that the country has LONG had a very good vetting system in place, along with the US being a lot better at generational assimilation.
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:09 PM
 
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It's 100% true. Native-born Americans are more likely to commit terrorism than foreign immigrants. One of the reasons for that is that the country has LONG had a very good vetting system in place, along with the US being a lot better at generational assimilation.
Can you please cite the source?
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Old 01-07-2018, 04:10 PM
 
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So, you admit you just make things up. Good to know. The first thing is admitting you have a problem.
Where am I making things up? So you believe the economy under Trump is terrible? Better tell your cult friends.
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