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Old 01-08-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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As long as the Lunatic Right is running things don’t expect much. They are only concerned with big business and big money. Who cares about the regular person. The big shots can do whatever they want under this administration.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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No administration or AG should be picking and choosing what laws to enforce. It's a stupid law and most people will agree to that, change the law. Problem solved.
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The logic is when you do not follow the law or the process to change it the result are exactly what you are seeing now.
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The idea that people should follow the process, long prescribed, is shocking.
It goes against the chaos and anarchy desired in the collective.
THE NEW IDEA IS WE MUST CHANGE WHAT WORKS.
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I agree, the idea that you just ignore the law is the worst possible solution to this mess.
The law says it is the DEA's job to schedule individual drugs. The DEA works under the DOJ.

This is definitely within Jeff Sessions's territory -- just as it was under Eric Holder's and Loretta Lynch's. The issue is that neither Obama nor Trump have appointed people within the DOJ who want to *use* the authority that has been given to them *by law* to reduce the scheduling of cannabis.

If there's anyone who is "ignoring the law" it is the executive branch -- specifically the DEA.

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Old 01-08-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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So your answer is to send out snarky texts and post bitter little posts about Trump and Sessions? What did that accomplish? You could work with NORML like I did years ago until I realized nothing would change until public opinion did, because no politician was going to buck their constituents on marijuana.
This is key right here. Public opinion still wasn't in favor of legalization throughout most of Obama's Presidency. It was only after Colorado and a couple of other states legalized and the sky didn't fall that public opinion started to come around. Democrats especially base their policy on public opinion hence why Obama didn't even support gay marriage until his second term. Marijuana will be legalized the next time we have a Democrat in office.

Right now, with Republicans in control of everything, there is no hope of nationwide legalization. The Christian Right, Big Pharma, and the private prison industry currently call all the shots. The Christian Right is the biggest factor.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Actually, a Republican (Tom Garrett) introduced a bill last year to legalize weed. It has 12 co-sponsors, a mix of Dems and Republicans. For those that want it legalized-have you written your congressman to encourage them to support this bill?
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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It's more of a generational thing I think, but folks like Sessions do have a particular hard-on over this issue. They've really bought in to the hype that pot is no different than someone doing heroin or meth. Also it's known as the "devil's weed" and that means something to fundamental types.
Its not really a hard on over the issue, Sessions and lawmakers are under extreme pressure to ENSURE these things remain illegal. Too many different entities that rely on this.

Look at this way, back in 2012 the drug cartels had enough influence/ power to literally steal away the opioid prescription drug profits the pharma industry was enjoying, and they did this without ONE single pharma company trying to legally challenge them!!! That is some SERIOUS power!
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Not to mention the common-sensors who see that legalizing something like marijuana is counter productive and will ruin many more lives than it will ever benefit.

Liberals embrace - and reelect! - someone who wants to ban sugary sodas and lionize anyone who wishes to legalize pot. Go figure

Pot causes cognitive degradation and is associated with lower test scores and lower educational attainment. A study in a British health research journal, found that teens who smoke marijuana are 60 percent less likely to graduate from college and seven times more likely to attempt suicide.

The stuff is dangerous and states who legalize it are governed by cowards. Sessions is spot on.
Here ya go, Stoners:
'Here ya go' what?

You posted an opinion piece by an attorney at the Heritage Foundation. That person used links to old articles and data. It is not credible at all. There is a link to an article stating that desire to legalize marijuana in this county is on the wane. The opposite is true. His sources also said that alcohol is not addictive. Guess AA and many alcoholics will be happy to hear that.

Your logic is faulty. Your stats from one single study in another country is really not enough to base US policy on and we can come up with our own supportive studies. Nice that you are so concerned about teens, but teens who live in rural areas are also less likely to graduate high school, go to college (70% less) and are 5 times more likely to die from the 5 leading causes of death than their urban counterparts. Should we encourage people not to live in rural areas because of this?

Weed is 'dangerous'? More dangerous than guns?

And despite your disdain for liberals, this is a bipartisan-supported issue.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ization-244155
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Not to mention the common-sensors who see that legalizing something like marijuana is counter productive and will ruin many more lives than it will ever benefit.

Liberals embrace - and reelect! - someone who wants to ban sugary sodas and lionize anyone who wishes to legalize pot. Go figure

Pot causes cognitive degradation and is associated with lower test scores and lower educational attainment. A study in a British health research journal, found that teens who smoke marijuana are 60 percent less likely to graduate from college and seven times more likely to attempt suicide.

The stuff is dangerous and states who legalize it are governed by cowards. Sessions is spot on.
Here ya go, Stoners:
Sugary sodas cause diabetes, something Mississippi ought to think about.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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Right now, with Republicans in control of everything, there is no hope of nationwide legalization. The Christian Right, Big Pharma, and the private prison industry currently call all the shots. The Christian Right is the biggest factor.
Big pharma is not nearly as powerful as many think they are. The 2012 prescription drug laws were a great example of this...

Before the 2012 opioid laws, pharma industry was raking in the cash, due to so many doctors writing so many scripts for Percocet, Vicodin, Oxy, etc. They also saw addicts were willing pay 100X the retail price just to get these drugs...and yet not a single pharma company tried to legally challenge the tough new Govt regulations, that were going to crush its opioid cash cow.

What industry just accepts new Govt regulation that will decrease its profits on one of its most popular drugs?

Not only the loss of profit, but knowing all those former pill addicts will now be handing their cash over the drug cartels, in order to get their opioids..does this sound like a powerful industry? LOL
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: crafton pa
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I would also agree. The country, as a whole, overwhelmingly approves of legal marijuana. Close to 50% of republicans support it, and I believe 68-70% of dems support it. However, the federal law remains. Surprisingly, the legalization of marijuana is one of the most bipartisan issues facing our country in 2018.

The American people should put pressure on Congress to legalize marijuana nationwide, and then tax the hell out of it, which is what many states have already done. States like Colorado and Washington are seeing tens of millions of dollars from tax revenue annually.
I agree with you ... almost. Certainly, ignoring current law is not the answer. Congress should NOT legalize marijuana, though. Congress should simply repeal the current law making marijuana illegal at the Federal level. The difference is that if Congress passes a law making it legal, then any state that wants it to be illegal would not be able to do so. The Federal government should not be involved at all; it's a state issue.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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Here ya go, Listeners:

Dills, Angela K. and Goffard, Sietse and Miron, Jeffrey, Dose of Reality: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations (September 16, 2016). Cato Institute Policy Analysis No. 799. Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=2842278
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