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Old 01-09-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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Then you should have no problem posting video of all their crimes.

Come on, post the videos, and list the specific crimes they are committing.
I, too, would like to see those.
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:23 AM
 
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The Bundys are slimeball welfare queens and even worse...drama queens.
The Bundys are scam artists and welfare queens just like most of the people involved in the sovereign citizen movement. The entire movement is comprised almost entirely of grifters, drug addicts and other assorted losers all looking for handouts and freebies.
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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I have seen other cases tossed for non-disclosure, sometimes DA's attempt to cheat the system but that doesn't man its pervasive in our system. I do agree that the system has been unfair to many blacks arrested on minor drug offensives, there are statistics to back that up. I think you would have a difficult time finding a trend where white ranchers are discriminated against to the same degree.
Totally irrelevant. Everyone wants to make this about Bundy. It is NOT. It is about a corrupt justice system. This is about something we all should get behind but we can't because while we realize what happened was wrong in this case it's more important to note that one doesn't like the Bundy's.

What will happen to the prosecutor? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. There should be charges filed against them. That is what we should be discussing and trying to achieve.
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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"But I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing."

~The Solipsism Party motto.

Everyone is entitled to their own truth...or fiction.

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Old 01-09-2018, 12:43 PM
 
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The Bundy's walked because the prosecution was inept to the point of obstructionist malfeasance, period...The public lost on this case, and it will only embolden those who are in the Bundy camp. Many people have their grievances over what they deem to be an overreaching government's actions, but the Bundy's are in a class by themselves with their guns and God motives. Authority is GIVEN to the forces of government, and when that authority becomes abusive we should take action, and in that vein, the lessons of Gandhi are not lost on those with a more realistic view of politics.

Taking up arms against the standing authority is foolish grandstanding, and more than one fool has found this out the hard way. The loudmouth LaVoy, a pseudo-cowboy with his peashooter, David Koresh, the family of the Ruby Ridge fool, several Black Panthers, Tim McVeigh, it's a too long list to post but one get's the idea of foolhardiness as a deathly thing. It's easy to dismiss the government as an inconvenient force in our lives, but taking one's guns to town, as the song's lyrics suggest, is definitely a bad idea.. The Bundy's are not vindicated, they have shown a foolhardiness, and my guess is that they are now more emboldened than ever, and more than likely, will make some other standoff venue a widely known place, and a local undertaker a bit more prosperous...
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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Totally irrelevant. Everyone wants to make this about Bundy. It is NOT. It is about a corrupt justice system. This is about something we all should get behind but we can't because while we realize what happened was wrong in this case it's more important to note that one doesn't like the Bundy's.

What will happen to the prosecutor? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. There should be charges filed against them. That is what we should be discussing and trying to achieve.
No, this is about those who started the whole affair, no one from government came around with the express purpose of threatening the Bundy clan just for the hell of it. They had been utilizing the public land for a private enterprise venture, and no, they are certainly not the aggrieved cowboys they have postured themselves as. Good people are ranching everyday without the fanfare the Bundy's wanted so badly.

The media has not allowed a good long look at the efforts of others who disagreed with the BLM over land usage laws, and without guns and phony bravado, the others have made a better case for themselves. Ranchers all over the west are quietly making a good living without all that crap the Bundy's brought upon their families and the public. Please try to get over the Roy Rogers take on ranching..
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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Disappointed in this. These entitled freeloaders used government land without permission at no cost. They continued to do so even after warned not to. They deserve jail time.
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Old 01-09-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Innocent? After all of America saw their crimes on TV?

They deserve to be in bondage. If they were black, they would have been shot dead on site.

Yet, the prosecution could not convict them on truth and merits of the case. They felt they had a better chance of putting an innocent man in jail, by threatening witnesses and hiding along with denying evidence into the court.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: United States
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Disappointed in this. These entitled freeloaders used government land without permission at no cost. They continued to do so even after warned not to. They deserve jail time.
Jail people over a civil matter? That's barbaric.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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Jail people over a civil matter? That's barbaric.

That unfortunately is the only option when they refuse to pay the fines.
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