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Yet, the prosecution could not convict them on truth and merits of the case. They felt they had a better chance of putting an innocent man in jail, by threatening witnesses and hiding along with denying evidence into the court.
They absolutely could have convicted them on the truth and merits of the case. However the Trump appointed attorney that was leading the case preferred this method apparently.
No, this is about those who started the whole affair, no one from government came around with the express purpose of threatening the Bundy clan just for the hell of it. They had been utilizing the public land for a private enterprise venture, and no, they are certainly not the aggrieved cowboys they have postured themselves as. Good people are ranching everyday without the fanfare the Bundy's wanted so badly.
The media has not allowed a good long look at the efforts of others who disagreed with the BLM over land usage laws, and without guns and phony bravado, the others have made a better case for themselves. Ranchers all over the west are quietly making a good living without all that crap the Bundy's brought upon their families and the public. Please try to get over the Roy Rogers take on ranching..
I care less about Bundy one way or the other. If the government hadn't been corrupt and they would have been found guilty it would have pretty much been a complete non story.
Many of those who will get their charges or sentences dropped in Mass are guilty also in a just and fair system. We are better allowing 10,000 guilty go free as opposed to finding one innocent person guilty because of a corrupt system.
For some reason those like yourself don't want to discuss that the corrupt prosecutors will walk free. That is going to lead to more violence.
I care less about Bundy one way or the other. If the government hadn't been corrupt and they would have been found guilty it would have pretty much been a complete non story.
Many of those who will get their charges or sentences dropped in Mass are guilty also in a just and fair system. We are better allowing 10,000 guilty go free as opposed to finding one innocent person guilty because of a corrupt system.
For some reason those like yourself don't want to discuss that the corrupt prosecutors will walk free. That is going to lead to more violence.
The attempt to make this a political thing is truly a travesty for the justice system, the Bundy's wanted to skirt the laws in order to make money, period. That is the bottom line, you can't make any other case from looking at their defiant acts. Laws pose a restraint on many enterprises, and that's the way it should be, the public's interest above that of business. But the anti government forces out there are adamantly denying us that right, their business interests come first in their minds, and the laws are merely some pesky deterrents to that end.
Debtors prisons? Hardly, they owed a ton in legally imposed fines, guess what happens to those who flagrantly defy their traffic fines by refusing to pay? It's Jail time, no doubt about it. Don't make this appear as a department store debt, they owed the government and like all citizens they were given plenty of time to pay up, they instead chose to make their case a public plea, looking to get sympathy from their supporters.
The fact that the prosecution became part of the politicization effort can't be denied, did you think they (the prosecutors) didn't know what the outcome of their lackluster efforts would be? This entire debacle was a successful attempt by the Bundy's to politicize their situation, it worked, and the public as usual, lost. If you are really offended by corrupt government then take a good long look at the present circus in DC and then tell us that the Bundy case will be a central rallying point for anyone's sense of indignant political anger..
The attempt to make this a political thing is truly a travesty for the justice system, the Bundy's wanted to skirt the laws in order to make money, period. That is the bottom line, you can't make any other case from looking at their defiant acts. Laws pose a restraint on many enterprises, and that's the way it should be, the public's interest above that of business. But the anti government forces out there are adamantly denying us that right, their business interests come first in their minds, and the laws are merely some pesky deterrents to that end.
Debtors prisons? Hardly, they owed a ton in legally imposed fines, guess what happens to those who flagrantly defy their traffic fines by refusing to pay? It's Jail time, no doubt about it. Don't make this appear as a department store debt, they owed the government and like all citizens they were given plenty of time to pay up, they instead chose to make their case a public plea, looking to get sympathy from their supporters.
The fact that the prosecution became part of the politicization effort can't be denied, did you think they (the prosecutors) didn't know what the outcome of their lackluster efforts would be? This entire debacle was a successful attempt by the Bundy's to politicize their situation, it worked, and the public as usual, lost. If you are really offended by corrupt government then take a good long look at the present circus in DC and then tell us that the Bundy case will be a central rallying point for anyone's sense of indignant political anger..
If you have a case you don't need to cheat to make it.
Totally irrelevant. Everyone wants to make this about Bundy. It is NOT. It is about a corrupt justice system. This is about something we all should get behind but we can't because while we realize what happened was wrong in this case it's more important to note that one doesn't like the Bundy's.
What will happen to the prosecutor? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. There should be charges filed against them. That is what we should be discussing and trying to achieve.
This and the Malheur Reservation have been in the news for two years now, this is all about Bundy and those that feel he is being victimized. If I put up a thread regarding disparity of blacks heading for prison for minor drug offenses it would die in a day. Cliven Bundy was the hero of his crazy supporters that headed to his ranch to protect him from the oppressive government that just wanted him to pay his taxes, hard to believe that this is the cause that some bought into.
This and the Malheur Reservation have been in the news for two years now, this is all about Bundy and those that feel he is being victimized. If I put up a thread regarding disparity of blacks heading for prison for minor drug offenses it would die in a day.
I've posted many threads on that. Basically you are saying that you want to be what you complain about.
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Cliven Bundy was the hero of his crazy supporters that headed to his ranch to protect him from the oppressive government that just wanted him to pay his taxes, hard to believe that this is the cause that some bought into.
A corrupt entity can not make a legit argument about anything.
They absolutely could have convicted them on the truth and merits of the case. However the Trump appointed attorney that was leading the case preferred this method apparently.
The lead prosecutor has been on the case for 3 years.
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