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Old 01-09-2018, 05:03 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Dems have abandoned the middle class. They've got to continue to build their dependent base by importing as many uneducated illegals as possible knowing they will throw down babies and create new voters.
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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Has anybody ever looked for the millions of overstayed visa people?

Not verifying DACA info is something that should be done immediately. They could fund that operation with the fines from employers.

While they are at it they could verify the income on reduced and free lunch applications.
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Donald Trump is willing to work with the Dems on a DACA deal, but are the Dems willing to work with him? They can't expect to get what they want without conceding something. That's the way it works.

Also, holding the country hostage and shutting down the government over illegal aliens is not going to turn out well for them.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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DACA is amnesty by a different name, it still smells the same.

Amnesty is an incentive for illegals to sneak into our country.

Illegal immigration will not end until there are penalties for doing it. The US owes these people nothing.

Their complaint should be leveled at their parents for putting them in that position.

A second time sneak in gets a 10 year sentence in Mexico. Catch and release here is a dismal failure.
So, how do you feel about Trump coming out in favor of a 'clean' DACA bill--with nothing but a promise to take up border security and immigration reform?

Trump called DACA, 'a bill of love'.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Dems have abandoned the middle class. They've got to continue to build their dependent base by importing as many uneducated illegals as possible knowing they will throw down babies and create new voters.
Looks to me like Trump has gone Dem on this issue. If the Lawmakers are scared enough..they just might pass it..to keep their jobs.

The days of the tails wagging the dogs...the extremists on both sides..might be waning.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:13 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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So, how do you feel about Trump coming out in favor of a 'clean' DACA bill--with nothing but a promise to take up border security and immigration reform?

Trump called DACA, 'a bill of love'.
Haha! I wondered when someone was going to bring up the bill of love'.

I have a feeling that once the cameras were off - the republicans schooled Trump on the 'clean DACA bill' as well as the 'bill of love".
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:19 PM
 
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So, how do you feel about Trump coming out in favor of a 'clean' DACA bill--with nothing but a promise to take up border security and immigration reform?

Trump called DACA, 'a bill of love'.
Wall or no DACA.
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Wall or no DACA.
Wall, Chain migration and lottery migration or no DACA
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Someone needs to stand up for these children and young people, they know no other home, and are not causing anyone harm. The people who want them gone are simply being spiteful, and using that worn out "you shouldn't be here illegally" argument. If that were the case, none of us should be here either, because our forefathers sure as Hell didn't get permission from the true Americans, the Indians.

Trumpees wonder why we dislike their attitudes so much, and this is just one example. All you care about is yourself, and have no compassion for your fellow man.


Reward the establishment one worlders for them allowing this to happen for 3 decades or more?

Reagan promised me, "it was going to be a one time and one time only deal", in 1986, to sell me on Permanent green cards for what they said was 400,000, ended up being 4.3 million when it was all said and done.


All they did was call their friends and family in Mexico and said, come on over, I can put you to work now.... and did they!
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Sen. Feinstien proposed doing a DACA deal now with an agreement to work on reform later. Pres. Trump said he might be willing to do that and would take the heat. I don't believe the GOP senators are crazy about that idea.

To me, Pres. Trump would really be going out on a limb by doing DACA deal on its own. It would be just too easy for the Dems to renege and have the president end up with nothing, which I'm sure would suit the Dems just fine.
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