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Old 01-11-2018, 10:57 AM
 
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From what I've read, some of the information contained was inconsequential and/or already widely known. Other parts have since been corroborated.

A lot of the Steele dossier has since been corroborated.
From what I've read, much of the dossier remains unsubstantiated nearly a year after it became public.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/05/u...smtyp=cur&_r=1
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Old 01-11-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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From what I've read, much of the dossier remains unsubstantiated nearly a year after it became public.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/05/u...smtyp=cur&_r=1
sounds to me like some of it has been substantiated...

but more importantly , that is NOT the bar. We don't even know if the dossier was the primary or a secondary motivator . Or if it's existence even mattered....
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Old 01-11-2018, 11:04 AM
 
Location: United States
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I AM CALLING OUT YOUR BULLSHOOT LINK .

your link goes to Conservative tree.... which relies on Sara Carter as it's source. Sara relies on Hannity for her source. Hannity provides no source apart from his claim of his 'investigations".

I call this the FOX CIRCLE OF BULLSHOOT. self quoting crap.

your link is bull hbdwidhd, pure bull. there is no real HARD sources or evidence here at all, just right wing bull.
Hannity, and Sara Carter each had separate sources. People in congress can't go into details because the information is classified, but they are saying the same thing.

Republicans are calling to declassify this information, and release it, that is a pretty good indication that the dossier was used for the FISA court application.

It is almost certain that parts of the dossier were in fact used for the FISA court application, it remains to be seen if they violated the law by doing so.
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Old 01-11-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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Hannity, and Sara Carter each had separate sources. People in congress can't go into details because the information is classified, but they are saying the same thing.

Republicans are calling to declassify this information, and release it, that is a pretty good indication that the dossier was used for the FISA court application.

It is almost certain that parts of the dossier were in fact used for the FISA court application, it remains to be seen if they violated the law by doing so.
no no they don't Sara directly quoted Hannity as a source. Hannity did not give one.

and if that is the standard of truth than everything posted by the left is automatically true

still sure you want that to be the standard? because the left has the mirror image of Hannity and Sara, shall we all drop down to that level of making up crap ?

Funny how you guys are hanging on to the tiniest little fig leaves to try and discredit this investigation in any way you can. The bad news is Mueller man is doing his job and Team trump is up to it's neck in dirty money... obstruction and conspiracy.... and Mueller like knows "X" times more...
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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sounds to me like some of it has been substantiated...

but more importantly , that is NOT the bar. We don't even know if the dossier was the primary or a secondary motivator . Or if it's existence even mattered....
Also true. The only reason the FBI was interested in what Steele had to say was the fact that they already had some of the same info from a source close to Trump.
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:29 PM
 
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no no they don't Sara directly quoted Hannity as a source. Hannity did not give one.

and if that is the standard of truth than everything posted by the left is automatically true

still sure you want that to be the standard? because the left has the mirror image of Hannity and Sara, shall we all drop down to that level of making up crap ?

Funny how you guys are hanging on to the tiniest little fig leaves to try and discredit this investigation in any way you can. The bad news is Mueller man is doing his job and Team trump is up to it's neck in dirty money... obstruction and conspiracy.... and Mueller like knows "X" times more...
As per usual, you don't know what you are talking about.

Sara Carter stated in her article stated that she has multiple sources. Hannity also said he had multiple sources.

Members of congress are saying the same thing, the dossier was used in the FISA court application.

I'd bet that it will be confirmed that the dossier was in fact used, it remains to be seen if they violated any laws by doing so.
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Then obviously if the Steele memos were used, enough of them had been corroborated to demonstrate evidence of a crime. These memos are not a work of fiction. Information in some of them has indeed been confirmed, as has been posted here already. Here's the article again, iin case you missed it:

A lot of the Steele dossier has since been corroborated.

There was also some background on this in Simpson's testimony. You should read it as well.
James Comey, said six months later & under oath, that the dossier was unverified. How could it have been verified six months earlier?
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:44 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Also true. The only reason the FBI was interested in what Steele had to say was the fact that they already had some of the same info from a source close to Trump.
Says who?
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Old 01-11-2018, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Brusssels
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As per usual, you don't know what you are talking about.

Sara Carter stated in her article stated that she has multiple sources. Hannity also said he had multiple sources.

Members of congress are saying the same thing, the dossier was used in the FISA court application.

I'd bet that it will be confirmed that the dossier was in fact used, it remains to be seen if they violated any laws by doing so.
The dossier ALONE was not used to justify the FISA court application, they'd have to confirm a number of items in it before a federal prosecutor would even make the request to the court. And that also has nothing to do with what was actually intercepted and recorded by the FBI - it will be VERY interesting when that comes out.

So, these right wing "reporters" are not reporting on the whole story, only the part that throws red meat to their audience.
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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The dossier ALONE was not used to justify the FISA court application, they'd have to confirm a number of items in it before a federal prosecutor would even make the request to the court. And that also has nothing to do with what was actually intercepted and recorded by the FBI - it will be VERY interesting when that comes out.

So, these right wing "reporters" are not reporting on the whole story, only the part that throws red meat to their audience.
That's right, they would have to provide the court with legitimate evidence. If they passed off the unverified dossier as legitimate evidence, that could very well be a crime.

As I've repeatedly stated, it remains to be seen if they violated the law.
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