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Old 01-11-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.5b21da4625db

Hope all those old and disabled Fox News viewers who voted for him are ready to work for the meds that keep them alive. THIS is what they voted for.
The Centers for Medicare &Medicaid Services (CMS) is announcing a new policy designed to assist states in their efforts to improve Medicaid enrollee health and well
-being through incentivizing work and community engagement among non-elderly, non-pregnant adult Medicaid beneficiaries who are eligible for Medicaid on a basis other than disability.1

1 States will have the flexibility to identify activities other than employment, which promote health and wellness, and which will meet the states’ requirements for continued Medicaid eligibility. These activities include, but are not limited to, community service, care giving, education, job training, and substance use disorder treatment.





https://www.medicaid.gov/federal-pol...s/smd18002.pdf

Hope all those able bodied folks are ready to improve themselves.
I see nothing wrong with able bodied people working, earning money, being active in the community, taking courses, getting job training and especially getting treatment for substance use. That right there might just make them functioning members of society.

Did you even read it? elderly and disabled, really.

 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Another distortion, courtesy of the Masters of Spin; Trump isn't forcing these requirements on all Medicaid recipients; he's advocating allowing individual states to impose them in specific cases.

Most of us who live in smaller communities are well-aware that while a "safety net" is a necessity, there are plenty of unmotivated individuals who will exploit any part of a large, hard-to-police program to their advantage, if it's possible to do so. Return of individual cases to local oversight would likely expose a great deal of fraud, which is why the administrators -- whose only "incentive" is a bigger "problem'" and a bigger staff, budget and salary to (supposedly) address it, would fight any serious reform to the last ditch.

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Old 01-11-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Unless they need to go into a nursing home for more than 30 days.
And before you get Medicaid, you have to spend down your assets to a very low level.

Thumbnail sketch: https://www.medicare.gov/what-medica...home-care.html
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Nor Cal Wahine View Post
Did you read the article? Honestly - did you?
Why would anyone expect someone to read a article behind a paywall ?

The propaganda is bad enough without paying for it.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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This thread serves as a convenient litmus test of character. An honest mistake is acknowledged and not repeated moving forward. Dishonesty runs hand-in-hand with cowardice however, so those refusing to acknowledge their mistakes will simply disappear.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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The good news:

"Such requirements are likely to be imposed in states carried by Trump. The Post reports that 10 states are already trying to get permission to impose them, almost all of them red states. This, among other things, leads Harold Pollack, a health-policy expert at the University of Chicago, to conclude that “Medicaid work requirements may hit Trump country hardest.”

There you go, red states. How do you like your president now?
Even better.
He is giving the States what they want and he is helping to get these young welfare recipients back into the work force or at least in mainstream. Hope my state goes for it.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Why would anyone expect someone to read a article behind a paywall ?

The propaganda is bad enough without paying for it.
There wasn't a paywall, and the article information was very straight-forward; it was the OP who twisted and manipulated it for the benefit of idiotic followers who let other people think for them.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Orange County/Las Vegas
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Originally Posted by Nor Cal Wahine View Post
OP, are you confusing Medicaid with Medicare, perhaps? The article specifically refers to Medicaid, not Medicare. It also states that the proposed changes are for able-bodied adults, and that they are seeking "community engagement", which means jobs, education, or volunteer work.

I know that none of this is as attention-grabbing as your thread title and post, but one is factual, and one is erroneous and sensational. You're either greatly mistaken, or dishonest. So which is it?


Thank you I was going to bring up the same thing. Either the OP can't read or just like to spread fake news.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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More left wing knee jerk hysteria.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Unless they need to go into a nursing home for more than 30 days.
People in nursing homes are not able-bodied. The changes wouldn't apply.
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