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Old 01-11-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post
And before you get Medicaid, you have to spend down your assets to a very low level.

Thumbnail sketch: https://www.medicare.gov/what-medica...home-care.html
Yup, & just to be clear about it, not everyone in a nursing home is elderly, but they, too, have to spend down before the Medicaid kicks in.

 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.5b21da4625db

Hope all those old and disabled Fox News viewers who voted for him are ready to work for the meds that keep them alive. THIS is what they voted for.

Hey, they hired a "businessman", and we all know how businesses operate. Good for them for voting for this fool. (I am one of them, their age, luckily, I don't depend on Medicare)
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Brusssels
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OP, are you confusing Medicaid with Medicare, perhaps? The article specifically refers to Medicaid, not Medicare. It also states that the proposed changes are for able-bodied adults, and that they are seeking "community engagement", which means jobs, education, or volunteer work.

I know that none of this is as attention-grabbing as your thread title and post, but one is factual, and one is erroneous and sensational. You're either greatly mistaken, or dishonest. So which is it?
Nope, read the article. It says Medicaid. All those AARP folks will turn on the GOP once they realize this.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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I have no problem requiring those who can work, work. What I have a problem with is some of the justifications used and the way those who want to enact these changes go about it.

From the link in the link:

The guidance cites research that it says demonstrates people who work tend to have higher incomes associated with longer life spans, while those who are unemployed are more prone to depression, “poorer general health,” and even death.

Yes, those who remain healthy and can work generally live longer. Those who are not healthy and can't work generally die sooner. No kidding. This is NOT a justification for anything.

The links clearly note that there is not a call for work under this legislation unlike there was with welfare so rather than work to change the law, people are looking for a way around the law. That is exactly what people (rightly) condemned Obama for doing but will praise Trump for doing.

How we allow such bitter, non caring people into positions of leadership is beyond my understanding.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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I'm going to watch this thread with amusement. As I said a page back, it's an excellent litmus test. A self-created list of dopes to put on ignore.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Brusssels
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And before you get Medicaid, you have to spend down your assets to a very low level.

Thumbnail sketch: https://www.medicare.gov/what-medica...home-care.html
Yes, and many Trump voters have been at that low level for years. And now they deserve what is coming to them. I just fell really bad for the elderly who did not vote for him.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Um, do you mean Medicare? Usually Medicaid isn't for the elderly.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Democrats are against people working,even the able bodied.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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People in nursing homes are not able-bodied. The changes wouldn't apply.
Some are able bodied but are there for various reasons. I've known people who don't want to live on their own anymore & have checked themselves into nursing homes or assisted living situations & done the spend down. It's a head-scratcher when it happens, but I've seen it.
 
Old 01-11-2018, 01:00 PM
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Just what we need in the work force, people who don't want to be there. IMO this will stagnate wages even more.
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