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I never thought I would see the day when American would back a buffoon like Trump. He has been an embarrassment for the country with his stupid Tweets and antics. I have seen children act better. Funny how the tough talkers in the Republican Party have all changed their tune to cozy up to Trump. They know with Trump he likes to be buttered up and praised. That is Trumps weakness.
I never thought I would see the day when American would back a buffoon like Trump. He has been an embarrassment for the country with his stupid Tweets and antics. I have seen children act better. Funny how the tough talkers in the Republican Party have all changed their tune to cozy up to Trump. They know with Trump he likes to be buttered up and praised. That is Trumps weakness.
No actually, your wrong, the republican Party are kissing his butt now, b/c they want votes....they want to keep their jobs, and during the election, while they were against him, they became unpopular, so now b/c he is favored and doing a good job, they are kissing his butt.
When everyone was turning against him, during the election, to me, that proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, how they feared him. You and all others seem to forget. Trump was and is rich, right along with Bush and all the other global leaders....so he knew what was really going on, and who was really running the show. Big Corporations, who are the Establishment. When the Establishment right along with left wing media tried to stop him, that to me spoke volumes.
He hasn't disappointed me in anything he has done....yes, he speaks openly without any filter...however, foreign leaders like him, he doesn't treat them with arrogance...he is forgiving...and can make deals....yes, he becomes angry and acts out...but so have all those who have quit, and stopped working with him....I know one who was a leftist, and b/c he himself, was used to getting "his" way, he quit working with Trump.
What goes around comes around, and our economy is growing, we are starting an upward spiral as far as growth....
I hope people once again become solid responsible parents, because parenting skills have been lost. Parents coddle they're kids way too much, and forget about teaching them the important things in life, like self preservation, how to be independent, how to deal with losing, not to mention, all the bullying going on in schools is perfect evidence something is wrong, along with violence among teenagers and kids.
It's time we wake up and get hard again, hard against breaking laws....it was ingrained in us, by our parents growing up that breaking rules and laws was a no no. It went against our moral code to do so...that isn't being taught like it was....by parents...oh yes, some do, but most do not, and it is evident by how kids behave in public, and in schools. People back then were defined by the rules and laws they followed, by the respect they owned, by the way they treated others, and by how well behaved their children were....not by they're political affiliation and by how much they own today.
so, you can call Trump names, you can vocalize how terrible he is....but when push comes to shove, what you cannot do, is deflect the facts. I have in my entire life, never ever seen the stock market as it has been over the past year.
Yeah Trump tweets, but he does that, I think for a reason. No other public figure has ever done this, and he is doing so, to get the facts out to the people before the leftest media does.
Oh, and the way the media is and has been attacking him, proves how much they fear him....why he can't do anything right according to them....and yet, Disney, who owns Channel 6 Action News, were the ones who laid off their American Workers, and hired foreign workers. Adding insult to injury, they didn't just lay them off, they made the workers they laid off, train the foreign workers. Pathetic. So, yeah, they hate Trump because he is undoing every bad thing Obama had done to this country. Including the breakdown of our military, including the breakdown and disrespect for our law enforcement. Including criminals...
Anyone who can talk like you against Trump, calling him a racist b/c he wants to enforce our borders, and our immigration laws, are the ones who not only cannot see a bigger picture, you have no comprehension skills, you don't really follow politics, and don't actually know what is going on out there...or your simply defiant, b/c your a liberal and want your way...like the childish liberals in Washington, who act out like children, b/c they want it all. They don't and won't compromise....and the Republicans are also the same way....Trump is trying very hard to bring them together....some of them are so rich, they don't know or care what it's like to get a raise which doesn't even cover living expense increases. They don't care that there are so many people in America without jobs...
This tax change he implemented already is having a positive effect on business....Look at the announcement Apple just made, and look at the boneses companies are giving to their employees.
I was in school when JFK was murdered...and Trump is trying to do the exact same thing....
the only reason you hate him is the fact that your liberal, and remaining loyal to your party. I wouldn't give you a plug nickle for any politician and I had my doubts about Trump, and I voted for Obama in his first term, b/c Bush didn't do a damn thing for this country. He just sat there pretending to care, while the establishment pulled the strings.
Trump is not, he is shaking the tree very hard, and that's what they hate about him and they are telling you to hate him so you do, b/c your liberal and all you care about is him making mistakes....you don't want him to succeed, in that, you don't want Americans to win....
but that logic you would never be able to understand.
Trump is compromised by the Russian with hotel video recording of Moscow hotel prostitute sex. That sooner or later will be gone viral on the internet. That's been used for the threat of blackmail POTUS. Worse, the election and American democracy is compromised through making Trump elected.
I know his moral standards don't mean a thing to most in America.
Morals in the White House? LOL
I bet the Oral Office has seen quite a bit of morals in 200 years. 😊
The nation did not vote for him. He was elected by an archaic and useless indirect election. Most people voted for Hillary. Get rid of the electoral college!!!
Useless? You need to read up as to why the Electoral College is there. It performed as it was meant to, beautifully. 😃
A national leader should represent the best of the nation they are leading. Trump represents the absolute worst of America. Are there parents who see the likes of Trump, lustful, stupid and bullying, as the role models for their sons?
I am deeply ashamed of today's America- no sane person can be proud of it in its present state. I am not ashamed of being an American, though, because a decisive majority of Americans did not vote for this ignoramus and the despicable characters that surround him. We fell victim to an archaic and undemocratic system of elections and that is the one reason I am not disgusted with my American citizenship. I take comfort in knowing that Most of my fellow citizens are better than this.
I think there is still hope for this country but it will not shine until the dark underbelly, known as "Trump's base", is denounced on every street and in every corner, denounced loudly and clearly. Every child in every school must be taught how this ignorant and hateful movement came about and what the fallacies in its thinking are. That must be taught like we teach basic English or Math. I know it will happen and that knowledge keeps me inspired. Germany did it, Italy did it, Spain did it and so shall we.
Let all of us who still remember the words "decency", "humanity" and "knowledge" do everything within our ability to peacefully un-elect all members of Trump's party and place it in the trash bin of history where it duly belongs! If we don't do it, then who will?
I hear you and can't disagree with any of your statements. But it is becoming increasingly clear that there is a large group of people in this country that either don't understand where this is all going, or actually prefer to keep pushing toward a modern form of authoritarian government in lieu of the democratic one that we have enjoyed.
In a way, you have an old-fashioned set of values when you talk about "decency" "humanity" and "knowledge". We started seeing these go into decline in the 70's and the pace has accelerated every year. You don't have to dig very far into recent history to realize that these values are just a thin skin of civilization that barely covers our primitive tribal instincts. After all, it just took a little propaganda and populist rhetoric to lead us to the point where we can elect someone like Donald Trump.
I'm not convinced any longer that we have to ability to sustain the American dream going forward; right now we are walking on a knife's edge, and it could go either way. The next couple of years under Trump will tell the tale.
You do realize the radicals on the left brought this environment about right? You cannot demand all of society, the government and economy all change so abruptly without angering and dividing any nation. The values of the radical left are so far from American they are simply offensive to freedom itself.
I have no desire for civil discourse with people who
1. Believe in socialism
2. Support homosexuality or other perverse behavior
3. do not support free speech
4. Support black lives matter
5. Pander to minorities or believe they are “oppressedâ€
6. Believe in political correctness
7. Support gun control
I think this little list sums op the snowflake group, and no I’m fine with democrats of old even if I don’t always agree with them. Traditional democratic causes like union issues, healthcare law and workers rights absolutely have a place in our national debate. These lowlives (snowflakes) have for now taken over the Democratic Party at the expense of freedom. Those who believe in the un American causes above are enemies of the country and should be treated as such. If Trump wants to provoke and attack them I’m fine with that. These people really are dangerous, thier demands for radical change and the attempt to carry some of the agenda out under Obama is the very reason Trumps confrontational methods got him elected. The people wanted a president who could stop and even humiliate these leftist. Personally I believe the divide in this nation is very serious. The hatred, violence and protests point to the possibility of civil war. When radicals gain power that is usually what happens. In 2020 the far left is likely to win everything, the millenial generation will exert its full force upon our society as they will all have come of age by this cycle. Will red state America live with it or raise the flag of rebellion? Hard to picture the conservative state acceptance of socialism and social liberalism being forced by law upon them peacefully. There are limits of strain the union can handle and we are getting very near them. I make no apologies for my contribution to this division as the far left is an abomination upon democracy as far as I am concerned and it needs to be stomped out. If civil war is our future then so be it, after all its often stated that freedom is not free.
I have no such realization! And you can stick your snowflake right up there where you've stuck your head. And/or here's your "civil discourse" you seem wanting to go on about yet no desire to have (AKA "the my way or the highway" of hearing yourself talk)...
America has been divided by people committed to different ideologies since our founding fathers debated over how our constitution should be written! Review the history of our country and anyone can clearly recognize how that division has manifested itself one way or another. Take our Civil War for example. Can hardly get more divided than that!
I don't know about the desire to have civil discourse, but I do have a desire for people to understand why informed, reasoned and intelligent people might disagree and perhaps better figure out who is more right and/or more wrong when it comes to the judgement we must exercise to be better people, a better country.
1. Why start with this about socialism? Learn what socialism means and all the manner in which we might consider better public policy having nothing to do with socialism. Maybe my #1 should be I'm not ignorant!
2. I'm not gay. I don't support perverse behavior, perverse ways of thinking either. I do believe in allowing people the freedom to live as they wish as long as they don't affect others doing the same. "Live and let live" as they say. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
3. Not sure who doesn't support free speech whether liberal or conservative, but I know I do.
4. I support or recognize that all lives matter and that some lives are significantly and negatively impacted by the color of their skin. That's wrong and we still have work to do to alleviate the problem of racism (again see our Civil War, the Civil Rights movement).
5. Not big on pandering to anyone, but simply recognizing right from wrong, where injustices have occurred and still occur is not pandering to anyone.
6. Political correctness means different things to different people. For me it simply means being civil, not insulting other people because of race, sex, ethnicity or because they are different from who we are.
7. Guns are a very important issue for some folks, not so much for others. I'm not one of those "all or nothing" people. I support public policy that effectively accomplishes the goals intended, not so much public policy that doesn't, but I'm willing to consider both sides of most any argument rather than be insensitive to what the "other side" wants or needs.
Your little list proves what lots of people not so conservative tend to believe about hard-right conservatives who have little tolerance for people and/or ways of thinking that are different from theirs. I'm glad that with each generation there seem to be less and less folks so inclined just like I'm glad less and less people are giving Trump a favorable rating as of late. Of course change of consequence doesn't happen abruptly. Takes time and patience. The backwardness often insisted upon by the status quo (again see our Civil War, the MaCarthy era, the Civil Rights movement, etc., and we see how America slowly but surely makes progress with each new younger generation, though painfully and slowly.
Lets face it, another reason I voted for Trump is, due to his money, he ran around and hob nobbed with the elites...he knows more about whats going on out there than most, believe me, and that is why he ran.
He wants a future for his kids....
When I check into this forum to waste a bit of time most every morning, there are just too many comments that should be addressed, corrected and/or commended if that sort of exchange is the idea. Too many in general, and that's just in the few threads I tend to stick with for awhile...
Then too there are the comments that I best just pass over, because well..., it's something like performing triage after a disaster. You can save and help some people, maybe at least try, but in the case of others, you have little choice but to right them off.
I care about my future, the future of this country and most certainly the future for my kids...
It is mostly the future for my kids but also for all of us that makes me most concerned that enough Americans thought to help make Trump our POTUS for these reasons that surely test the bounds of reason and logic!
Yes, my taxes going down, my wages going up, and the lifting of oppressive and tyrannical legislation from my head is certainly the "worst of America." What we need here is an Idi Amin or Pol Pot to straighten this nation out.
I'm curious to know when the Left will realize that cheap shaming tactics have virtually no effect at this point.
From now on, they will have to justify their positions in logic instead of with feelings and social manipulation.
I'm curious to know when we'll stop speaking in terms of left vs right and pretending either side doesn't shame the other like this comment goes on to do, but then again I know better...
All efforts to better apply civility, logic and reason have been tried through the ages, but ultimately what prevails is the divide that separates us in terms of how we think, what we believe and who we are. No reason or logic has much chance for success in the face of ego, bias and impenetrable preconceived assumptions about what is right and what is wrong.
When I check into this forum to waste a bit of time most every morning, there are just too many comments that should be addressed, corrected and/or commended if that sort of exchange is the idea. Too many in general, and that's just in the few threads I tend to stick with for awhile...
Then too there are the comments that I best just pass over, because well..., it's something like performing triage after a disaster. You can save and help some people, maybe at least try, but in the case of others, you have little choice but to right them off.
I care about my future, the future of this country and most certainly the future for my kids...
It is mostly the future for my kids but also for all of us that makes me most concerned that enough Americans thought to help make Trump our POTUS for these reasons that surely test the bounds of reason and logic!
yeah well, I believe we all care about the future, however, with very different perspectives....
and please you've talked about wasting your time several times in your posts, so why even bother if it's such a waste of time...what an insult to everyone here, as if your time is so precious....please don't do us any favors....
the only people who need saving are those who would open our borders wide to ever tom, dick and harry criminal on the planet.
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