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IMO, people like Trump, Hillary etc, have never had to struggle for anything or do any sort of work that made them break a sweat. And they will never know so they all assume that people who are fleeing these countries are the worst of the worst that's NOT they want a better life for themselves. And who wouldn't?
Can tell me that you would try to move some place better if you came from one of these place.
And what Trump said was this " He said I ASSUME some are good people." This nation was built BY those who came from other countries.
Trump worked his butt off to win. Going to 5 rallies in one day. Hillary every few days gave ten minute speeches.
I figure if people can walk around in pink hats, dress up like lady parts, and talk non stop about their lady parts, then they can handle hearing the word "****hole" throughout this video:
If Trump were wrong, then why don't all the Haitian refugees want to return back to their island? It is a sh*thole country where the only "nice" areas are the ones designated for tourism because tourism is such an important part of Haiti's economy... that an all the US dollars that the Haitians in America send back to their families.
And Africa is a sh*thole continent. Otherwise, why are so many Africans trying to escape to Europe? Instead, why don't Africans in crisis try to immigrate to a better African country? Or why doesn't some of the "successful" African countries open their doors to these African refugees?
In Africa, slavery and genocide are still being practiced. That and many parts believe witch doctors instead of real medicine (like in Zimbabwe where they persecute and kill albinos). Also, in Africa, they practice female circumcision, have child brides, and in the slums, women at night get raped in the public toilet buildings.
And Haiti and in African continent, the majority of the human inhabited areas do not have sewage systems, so yes, literally they are sh*tholes.
I would truly love for Haiti and the African continent to NOT be sh*tholes, and for their people to be happy, successful and staying in their own countries.
Miu, let's say you lived in a dilapidated old house in a bad neighborhood. I would not blame you for wanting to move into a nicer neighborhood. And I wouldn't try to keep you out, and only allow people from other nice (white) neighborhoods to move in. Finally, even though it may be true, I would never insult you by calling your house a shthole.
I figure if people can walk around in pink hats, dress up like lady parts, and talk non stop about their lady parts, then they can handle hearing the word "****hole" throughout this video:
Great. So France should be made to fix the mess they made in Haiti... and leave the US out of it. And send our Haitian refugees over to France. They all speak French, so they should do just fine. Or France should pay America to deal with Haiti.
A tiny few Haitians speak French. It’s probably the only country on Earth where the official language isn’t spoken by most of the citizens.
Haitian Creole and French aren’t mutually intelligible.
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No. The problem is... that once here, refugees and illegal immigrants only focus on trying to stay in America, not go back to improve their broken country.
I think that the refugee system is very cruel. Think of the saying "a luxury once sampled becomes a necessity"... we should never take in foreigners in times of crisis. We should only send aid and keep them there. It's cruel to let them sample a taste of life in a First World Country, then send them back. And it's not fair to their children either. BTW I don't want refugees to ever stay in America forever.
I also don't like that immigrants send US money back to their home countries. The money they earn should stay in this country.
Why didn’t your ancestors go back and fix that dump they came from?
Miu, let's say you lived in a dilapidated old house in a bad neighborhood. I would not blame you for wanting to move into a nicer neighborhood. And I wouldn't try to keep you out, and only allow people from other nice (white) neighborhoods to move in. Finally, even though it may be true, I would never insult you by calling your house a shthole.
This isn't a very good comparison. You wouldn't call the house a shthole. You'd call the neighborhood a shthole.
The house I grew up in (within a ghetto shthole) would be worth 4x as much if you moved it to the burbs. It was built pre-shthole status of the neighborhood and the occupants (my family) took good care of it.
That's the problem with this country and most of the outrage against Trump! More people are offended that he dares to be not politically correct than they are worried that we have a man who is not qualified or capable of executing the duties of the highest office in the land!
I haven't asked EVERYONE, but I doubt you are right about this. My acquaintances, friends and family are much more disturbed about the policy that has come out of the White House than political correctness. I do have to say that Trump has burned many bridges with his crudeness and lies, especially with other countries. It is not lack of political correctness, this is boorish behavior that prevents statesmanship. Trump has never heard of diplomacy. The thing is that we need to RESPECT and listen to others before we can negotiate, before we can work together as nations, and he seems to have no respect at all for anyone.
I see this as a problem. I understand that political correctness can go too far; if we are afraid to speak up because someone might be hurt, that is sometimes a problem. But the pendulum can swing too far in the other direction, too. If we can't keep a civil tongue, if we won't listen to others, if we can't refrain from name calling and demonizing others, then we will make no progress as a nation. Surely, there is a middle ground of honesty with respect and civility.
...but so what? Isn't it an American concept to allow people who were unlucky enough to be born in other countries to come here and have an opportunity? I thought the Statue of Liberty said, "Give me your tired and your poor, your yearning huddled masses..." not, "Give me your blond and your blue-eyed, your successful indifferent few..."
Also, it maybe thinly veiled racism. Azerbaijan, Georgia, Albania, Kosovo and Serbia are s--tholes too and, them some white folks...
Well, I know quite a few people from Nigeria, Somalia and Haiti and they agree; those countries are messed up. That's why they left.
So instead of getting at each other's throats we have to acknowledge that both sides of the aisle are right;
1. Those countries ARE badly run s--tholes. Truth must not become the new "hate speech"...
2. ...but we must preserve the American ideal that allows people to elevate themselves from such places.
#4 - Those capable of communicating in a statesman-like manner with regard to immigration policy from Less-Developed Countries.
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