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Old 01-13-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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People need to pay for their own stuff and not rely on others.

If they don’t have the money, not my problem nor society’s problem.
You can't even pay for your own healthcare.

When you get a heart attack and need the bypass surgery, you won't be able to afford to six-figure bill.

If you don't go broke, it will only be because you have insurance where you paid in some part of the bill in the form of premiums - and the vast majority of the bill got covered by money from other policy holders.

Insurance is voluntary socialism.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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I'll remember that and maybe some day I might walk by you on the street where you've ended up for whatever reason and give you a kick upside the head because you're such a loser.

This is a problem in our society. We're all in it together and it's really really sad we don't know the difference between right and wrong anymore.
I have the wherewithal to take care of myself. The person you would be kicking would be yourself.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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But,but I thought ObamaCare was going to take care of US?
That’s what liberals want you to think. Why they legalized dope. Keep you numb and stupid.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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I have seen mentally ill people here in my hometown most of my life and yes we have compassion for these people but they must also try to help themselves.One example is a guy who has means but prefers to live on the streets. My brother in law said he is a genius can play classical music on a piano had a great job he just went over the edge to that dark side.No socialized health care friends or family is going to cure him believe me they have tried.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You can't even pay for your own healthcare.

When you get a heart attack and need the bypass surgery, you won't be able to afford to six-figure bill.

If you don't go broke, it will only be because you have insurance where you paid in some part of the bill in the form of premiums - and the vast majority of the bill got covered by money from other policy holders.

Insurance is voluntary socialism.
Insurance is voluntary socialism in which insurance companies skim off large sums from actual healthcare benefits.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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That’s what liberals want you to think. Why they legalized dope. Keep you numb and stupid.
I meant that sarcasticly ...
Personally the legal dope is doctor prescribed medication
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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"Dumping" is fairly widespread.

North Dakota and South Dakota dump folks requiring mental health treatment in Minnesota. They pay for residential care until the person turns 18 or leaves the facility for any amount of time, then they stop paying and discourage them from returning home as "they have no services" for them. Happens all the damn time.

Just about anywhere in the country, a person who is down on their luck and requiring considerable assistance can mention something about a brother in another state or a job possibility somewhere else, and before you can say "patients' rights," they are on the next bus.

Social workers in Wisconsin used to put people on buses to Minnesota with the phone number of the local crisis team to call when they land.

Las Vegas got caught several years ago sending patients by bus to California.

An airport police officer once told me that they regularly find people wandering around the airport who were dumped there or sent there. It is a warm, relatively safe place to dump bothersome people.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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You can't even pay for your own healthcare.

When you get a heart attack and need the bypass surgery, you won't be able to afford to six-figure bill.

If you don't go broke, it will only be because you have insurance where you paid in some part of the bill in the form of premiums - and the vast majority of the bill got covered by money from other policy holders.

Insurance is voluntary socialism.
Yes I can. I sell my plane, a pa31t, that I own and not the bank. Plus heart disease doesn’t run in my family. My BP is awesome, blood gasses completely normal.

Sorry, I am ridiculously healthy. So says my doctor, that I paid cash.

So you keep your socialism, I want no part of it.
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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Last year, "two Howard University police officers and their supervisor were fired after being recorded dumping a patient from a wheelchair outside the university’s hospital in Washington, according to reports in The Washington Post. A video of the incident showed a male officer pushing the barefoot woman to a bus stop. Two other officers watched as she fell onto the sidewalk."

What is patient dumping? Incident with woman at Baltimore hospital is hardly new - Baltimore Sun
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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This woman did not leave on her own. She was clearly wheeled out by hospital staff.

They didn't even bother to get her shoes, clothes, or a coat.
Unfortunately, this is not the worst case.

A hospital van in 2007 dropping off a paraplegic man on Skid Row.

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A hospital van dropped off a paraplegic man on Skid Row, allegedly leaving him crawling in the street with nothing more than a soiled gown and a broken colostomy bag, police said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paraple...d-on-skid-row/
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