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Old 01-18-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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It didn't help that they were forced to give up their voter intimidation task force being lead by Chris Kobach, and that the courts have started to push back on their district boundary manipulations. I think Trump and the GOP will figure out other ways to cheat the democratic process. It will not be the bloodbath that CNN and Politico are foreshadowing.
"and the GOP will figure out other ways to cheat the democratic process."

How so?

When the dems controller voting districts they re-drew them.

hillary rand the DNC during the last election making SURE Bernie could NOT win.

Or maybe you didn't know that.
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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The GOP should be alarmed. The leadership is controlled by a couple of super rich families.

Their true leanings are showing up.
"The leadership is controlled by a couple of super rich families."

Are you naive enough to relive the the leadership of the dems ISN'T?

Hillary and her camp ran the entire DNC.

Do you have any idea how much Pelosi is worth?
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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I agree on divided government. However the current GOP and their political idea of doing nothing under a Dem. President was harmful to the country. The only good thing was the sequestration agreement to cut spending equally. Current group seems to be unable to corral their POTUS and actually get an idea of what to pass. Time for that Dem. House and Senate.

They should pass bills requiring compromise and force POTUS to put up or shut up.
"I agree on divided government. However the current GOP and their political idea of doing nothing under a Dem. President was harmful to the country"

Did yo nsay the same when the dems were in control?

"Time for that Dem. House and Senate."

Been there, done that. No thanks!

Remember ole' harry reid, "A budget, we DON'T NEED a budget"

Hundreds of bills passed the House never saw daylight in the Senate.

O Care passed with not 1 single repub voyt in either house.

So, save us the all of a sudden "concern"!
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.58ba8e92944c










Analyses like this one show me that many Trump Republicans are vastly overstating their leader's position as a president of the people. I think it would be wise of moderate Republicans to publicly distance themselves from Trump in order to keep their seats after this year's election.
I don't think the Democrats are going to win big. There will be some shifting around of seats, and it's possible the Democrats could regain control of the Senate, but what's missing right now is a cohesive message from the Democrats. Attacking Trump and the GOP isn't a message. While people who dislike Trump may be motivated to show up at the polls, I don't see Democrat/Republican control as solutions to the real problem, a legislature that is crippled by infighting in both parties and partisan bickering. The American people may not see Trump as effective (the majority of American people), but they are far less satisfied with Congress than they are with Trump. That's a problem that the Congressional leadership (both parties) need to address.
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:49 AM
 
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Around here, there is voter dissatisfaction with the GOP, where I am perplexed is with more and more voters I speak with wanted to switch to Democrat because the GOP was not conservative enough for them. I get independents wanting to switch with the hopes that the ACA will finally be killed if they flip Congress.......really?
"Around here, there is voter dissatisfaction with the GOP, "

Gee, I am so surprised!

"Is Pittsburgh more conservative or liberal?

Yes, you read that right, er, correctly. Pittsburgh is the 19th-most liberal city in the U.S. among cities with populations larger than 250,000, according to a recent study of public policy preferences. Philadelphia is 16th"

https://www.google.com/search?q=pitt...nt=firefox-b-1
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:54 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If consumer confidence wasn't so high and the Black unemployment rate skyhigh like it was under the 8 years of Obama, along with, if Trump wasn't standing up to our nations enemies instead, of bowing down to their every demand. I'd say the Democrats would have had a lock on taking the congress back.

For Republicans, it is going to depend on unity behind people with the Trump agenda and having record turnout, or getting behind another global establishment never Trumper and people stay home.
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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Emphasis on COULD!

Didn't the post predict hillary would win over and over and over?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0c3faeae2f13
One key mistake you make here though is that the polls did accurately predict Clinton would win the popular vote. I think the average prediction was that she would win 3.8% more popular vote than Trump. In actuality, her margin over Trump in popular votes was 2.1%. So, the polls were rather accurate.

Of course, the reply is "What does it matter? She lost the electoral vote? That is quite true.

However, all these off year elections are determined strictly by popular vote margins. So, if the polls got those roughly accurate in 2016, they should also be accurate in 2018.

It only takes 24 seats to shift the House of Representatives to the democrats. The republicans gained much more than in the 2010 election. There is every reason to believe the democrats will take more than 24 seats and capture the House of Representatives.
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:55 AM
 
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31 Republicans in the House have already announced they are not running again. There is a strong chance this will flip the majority party.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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The GOP is still in a very strong position due to gerrymandering, so things could be worse.

People really and truly dislike Trump, and that is a big problem, no way to sugar coat that. The tax cut is not very large for ordinary Americans, mine was swallowed up by an increase in my health insurance deduction so my paycheck barely looks any different, if that happens to a significant number of people it will blunt the positive affect.
Gerrymandering, purging voter rolls, and voter suppression are getting a hard look these days. Not sure they are going to be as effective as in the past. We'll see.

Most people are not getting that much of a tax cut, and if it swallowed up by increases in health insurance cost, then some will hardly notice.

But even among those who are getting a noticeable tax cut, most realize it is borrowed money. Some of leery of this.

Trial for Manafort and Gates will be getting underway just as the the campaigns get going. That ought to be a good time. Who knows how many more indictments by then.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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95 percent chance like on election day 2016
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