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Old 03-21-2018, 05:58 PM
 
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That's odd. I know MANY Trump voters who still think he is GREAT! I know of not one single person (personally) who voted for him, that has regretted doing so....
I’m not sure why you find that odd. Trump is not gaining new support. People who regret voting for him are only looking for reasons to validate that regret. The Mueller investigation, and now this porn star debacle, have only validated their feelings of disgust and regret. You are free to seek reassurance from other hardcore Trump supporters, but that psychological warm blanket doesn’t change the reality - these Trump dramas and debacles are bleeding his base of support. Hope you enjoy the Stormy Daniels drama. It’s going to get juicy!

 
Old 03-21-2018, 06:31 PM
 
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But either way, she is a washed up has-been who is going to go broke, paying for the lawsuit filed against her.
if you didn't watch the interview, schwartz, michael cohen's lawyer ( yes, the lawyer for the lawyer ), didn't actually cite any times daniels had violated the NDA and was assuming that she had leaked information. going to need more than that to get the $20,000,000.00.

possible scenarios:

* the NDA is ruled valid and michael cohen proves daniels has violated it ( at $1million per violation ).

highly unlikly IMO. if the NDA is ruled invalid then the violations are moot.

* the NDA is ruled valid and there is no violation.

possible, but i doubt it based on cohen and trump's claims that trump had no knowledge of it ( no "meeting of the minds" ).

* the the NDA is ruled invalid and a new NDA is agreed to.

possible. my guess the new sum would have to be in the 10's of millions to counter tv/book deals.

* the NDA is ruled invalid and stormy is free to sell her story and "property" to the highest bidder.

my money is on this one.
 
Old 03-21-2018, 06:43 PM
 
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if you didn't watch the interview, schwartz, michael cohen's lawyer ( yes, the lawyer for the lawyer ), didn't actually cite any times daniels had violated the NDA and was assuming that she had leaked information. going to need more than that to get the $20,000,000.00.

possible scenarios:

* the NDA is ruled valid and michael cohen proves daniels has violated it ( at $1million per violation ).

highly unlikly IMO. if the NDA is ruled invalid then the violations are moot.
I have to agree. I would be amazed. The corporation that is used is most likely going to be invalidated as it was used to hide criminal acts-both the FEC violations, and the adultery. Even then keep in mind, its NOT a NDA. Its a settlement agreement. If it was a NDA it might make it, but the settlement agreement indicates the payment was for something of value. And thats what causes so many issues.

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* the NDA is ruled valid and there is no violation.

possible, but i doubt it based on cohen and trump's claims that trump had no knowledge of it ( no "meeting of the minds" ).
yeah.

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* the the NDA is ruled invalid and a new NDA is agreed to.

possible. my guess the new sum would have to be in the 10's of millions to counter tv/book deals.
If they had a brain they would do this. Cohen has been hung out to dry on this.

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* the NDA is ruled invalid and stormy is free to sell her story and "property" to the highest bidder.

my money is on this one.
Hmmm...maybe. They absolutely should have taken then money back form her, avoided all the FEC stuff, and then negotiated a new deal with proper paperwork.

For a truly amazing overview of this, a podcast called opening arguments reviews it:

https://openargs.com/oa154-stormy-da...-legal-genius/
 
Old 03-21-2018, 06:48 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I still say a blowup doll would have had less plastic work done.
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At this point "What difference does it make?"
What I'd really like to know is who is paying the legal feels of Stephanie Clifford a/k/a Stormy Daniels and former Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal. Michael Avennati may be a nice guy but I don't think he undertakes the massive legal work involved for free. I wonder who is writing the checks. I don't think the people who have the devastated, chaotic life typical of a porn actress suddenly have money to vindicate obscure legal rights.

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I don't care where Donnie gets his freaky on and with whom. I feel sorry for Melania being humiliated like this, but, we also don't know what kind of arrangement they have in their marriage. Heck I would encourage Donnie Darko to get his jollies elsewhere if I was married to him. Maybe Melania feels the same?

These indiscretions don't belong in the press. While they make great fodder for the talk show circuit, these things belong behind closed doors. Now Steve hand me one of those bags because I think I may be a tad traumatized by the optics. There's a huge ewww factor there.
This represents the love of bashing anything Donald Trump. There are lots of cuckolded men and women in the country. I did support Bill Clinton. I see very little outrage on her behalf about the humiliation of the Paula Jones and other litigation. The joke was about "bimbo eruptions."
 
Old 03-21-2018, 06:51 PM
 
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What I'd really like to know is who is paying the legal feels of Stephanie Clifford a/k/a Stormy Daniels and former Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal. Michael Avennati may be a nice guy but I don't think he undertakes the massive legal work involved for free. I wonder who is writing the checks. I don't think the people who have the devastated, chaotic life typical of a porn actress suddenly have money to vindicate obscure legal rights.
They got over 280K from crowd funding so far. Additionally she has a net worth of 2 million.
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/ri...els-net-worth/


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This represents the love of bashing anything Donald Trump. There are lots of cuckolded men and women in the country. I did support Bill Clinton. I see very little outrage on her behalf about the humiliation of the Paula Jones and other litigation. The joke was about "bimbo eruptions."
This ALSO represents legal violations of the FEC. You know. the law.

And is Bill Clinton the current president? Did he get impeached?
 
Old 03-21-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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... its NOT a NDA. Its a settlement agreement.
correct. my bad. i'll stop referring to it as an NDA.


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For a truly amazing overview of this, a podcast called opening arguments reviews it:

https://openargs.com/oa154-stormy-da...-legal-genius/
yep. that was recorded just before cohen filed the $20million lawsuit so i hope there's an update.
 
Old 03-21-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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What I'd really like to know is who is paying the legal feels of Stephanie Clifford a/k/a Stormy Daniels and former Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal. Michael Avennati may be a nice guy but I don't think he undertakes the massive legal work involved for free. I wonder who is writing the checks. I don't think the people who have the devastated, chaotic life typical of a porn actress suddenly have money to vindicate obscure legal rights.

This represents the love of bashing anything Donald Trump. There are lots of cuckolded men and women in the country. I did support Bill Clinton. I see very little outrage on her behalf about the humiliation of the Paula Jones and other litigation. The joke was about "bimbo eruptions."
She's not just an actress. She is "...an award winning American pornographic actress, stripper, political figure, screenwriter, and director. She is a member of the NightMoves, AVN and XRCO Halls of Fame."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels

I don't know how much money she has, but rest assured, she is not living broke. Porn is pretty lucrative for those involved in producing it.

Also, she's a registered Republican.
 
Old 03-21-2018, 07:54 PM
 
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She's not just an actress. She is "...an award winning American pornographic actress, stripper, political figure, screenwriter, and director. She is a member of the NightMoves, AVN and XRCO Halls of Fame."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels

I don't know how much money she has, but rest assured, she is not living broke. Porn is pretty lucrative for those involved in producing it.

Also, she's a registered Republican.

she a prostitute, she get paid to have sex with people
 
Old 03-21-2018, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't know what stands to be gained. It's not illegal to have sex with someone. If Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels, so what? She isn't the only woman he has slept with, not by far.


This woman seems to be begging for attention because she slept with someone famous OR she's a jilted woman getting her revenge. A classy woman knows how to walk away from something and forget about it.
 
Old 03-21-2018, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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correct. my bad. i'll stop referring to it as an NDA.




yep. that was recorded just before cohen filed the $20million lawsuit so i hope there's an update.
Why is it referred to as an NDA everywhere?
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