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Old 03-07-2018, 09:52 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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from the link:

"The suit also alleges that Trump must be aware of Cohen's attempt to silence Daniels since New York bar rules require Cohen to keep his client informed at all times."

my guess is that cohen will fall on his sword with the NY bar before admitting that trump was aware of events.
My guess is that when faced with the prospect of spending some time in the big house Cohen will sing like a canary.

 
Old 03-07-2018, 09:53 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Have you not seen all the Russia related news lately? Hardly a fairy tale.
Yeah... Michael Moore foolishly allowed himself to be prominently used by the Russians at an anti-Trump rally.

Has Michael Moore been debriefed?

Note how we haven't heard much from him lately.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Pixley
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Carter Page was working for the FBI against the Russians. His investigation & court testimony led to convictions. How was he colluding with the Russians when he was literally working for the FBI against the Russians? Doesn't make much sense does it?
This makes no sense.

If Carter Page was working for the FBI against the Russians, why did the FBI need a FISA warrant to monitor his communications? Page would have been wearing a wire or regularly reporting into the FBI.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...m_npd_nn_tw_ma

She says the hush agreement is not valid because trump never signed it. Whoops!

Discovery should be interesting.
She should return all the money then since she didn't keep up her end. Of if the agreement isn't valid then she has no right to the money.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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My guess is that when faced with the prospect of spending some time in the big house Cohen will sing like a canary.
possible 5year felony sentence.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 10:02 AM
 
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She should return all the money then since she didn't keep up her end. Of if the agreement isn't valid then she has no right to the money.
her initial claim was that cohen violated the terms of the NDA by discussing it with the media. if that's the case then i believe she would be able to keep the money.

whether she does/doesn't is kind of a moot point since this has opened up a bigger can of worms concerning campaign fund violations.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 10:02 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This makes no sense.

If Carter Page was working for the FBI against the Russians, why did the FBI need a FISA warrant to monitor his communications? Page would have been wearing a wire or regularly reporting into the FBI.
To get to everyone else. Theoretically, the level of FISA warrant granted to surveil Carter Page includes anyone and everyone Page ever came into contact with (including Trump campaign/Admin), goes back in time indefinitely, and the only limitation is the expiration date of the FISA warrant, which was renewed several times.

That said. If Carter Page had supposedly actually done anything illegal, why has he never been charged with any crime? After several FISA warrants?
 
Old 03-07-2018, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This makes no sense.

If Carter Page was working for the FBI against the Russians, why did the FBI need a FISA warrant to monitor his communications? Page would have been wearing a wire or regularly reporting into the FBI.
First time around he didn't get any information from the Russians.

The Russians told someone they realized he was an idiot and decided not to deal with him.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/04/...-was-an-idiot/
 
Old 03-07-2018, 10:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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To get to everyone else. Theoretically, the level of FISA warrant granted to surveil Carter Page includes anyone and everyone Page ever came into contact with (including Trump campaign/Admin), goes back in time indefinitely, and the only limitation is the expiration date of the FISA warrant, which was renewed several times.

That said. If Carter Page had supposedly actually done anything illegal, why has he never been charged with any crime? After several FISA warrants?
It was nothing but a giant fishing expedition, accomplished with Carter Page's cooperation.
 
Old 03-07-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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To get to everyone else. Theoretically, the level of FISA warrant granted to surveil Carter Page includes anyone and everyone Page ever came into contact with (including Trump campaign/Admin), goes back in time indefinitely, and the only limitation is the expiration date of the FISA warrant, which was renewed several times.

That said. If Carter Page had supposedly actually done anything illegal, why has he never been charged with any crime? After several FISA warrants?
Your question is answered by your own post:

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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
To get to everyone else. Theoretically, the level of FISA warrant granted to surveil Carter Page includes anyone and everyone Page ever came into contact with (including Trump campaign/Admin), goes back in time indefinitely, and the only limitation is the expiration date of the FISA warrant, which was renewed several times.

That said. If Carter Page had supposedly actually done anything illegal, why has he never been charged with any crime? After several FISA warrants?
When they find a patsy, they don't generally take the patsy down until they have milked everything they think they can get out of them.
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