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Old 01-20-2018, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Some have no memory of the country of their birth and most are well assimilated. And most are fluent in English and quite American even though often bi-lingual. that actually makes them more valuable as employees.

Ohhh then for sure they must be citizens. That's the criteria the country outlines in our laws, right? Can't really remember their country of birth and must be well assimilated?

It's the loony toon thinking like this that has made me inch more and more from being liberal to being a moderate Dem.
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:38 PM
 
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Democrats oughta be ashamed of themselves putting illegal aliens before American citizens and veterans. Thanks Chuck Schumer!!
Nope. Dems thought they had a compromise with the GOP and Trump just last week. Then Trump got swayed by the far right and Kelly. What happened to his "love" bill? And also, Trump did't want to talk about DACA until the Dems supported his $18 billion wall. Where is HIS ability to compromise.
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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5 Republicans voted against the bill. Republicans can't even get their own party to agree on bills.

By the way, if you are in desperate need of votes, you negotiate to get those votes. I thought Trump was a excellent negotiator at least that is what he claimed. I guess he lied about that too.
sooo..

5 out of 51 republicans voted against--10%
49 of 49 democrats voted against--100%

Yeah..the republicans are totally at fault..
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:42 PM
 
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After the shutdown, Trump released a brutal tv spot, saying that Democrats are supporting illegal immigrant cop killers.

He’s feeding his base so much red meat, they may have a collective coronary.


https://politicalwire.com/2018/01/20...ne-immigation/
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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You think that's insane.

Try this.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/26080...-ryan-saavedra
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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After the shutdown, Trump released a brutal tv spot, saying that Democrats are supporting illegal immigrant cop killers.

He’s feeding his base so much red meat, they may have a collective coronary.


https://politicalwire.com/2018/01/20...ne-immigation/
I guess the truth hurts huh..
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Ohhh then for sure they must be citizens. That's the criteria the country outlines in our laws, right? Can't really remember their country of birth and must be well assimilated?

It's the loony toon thinking like this that has made me inch more and more from being liberal to being a moderate Dem.
Nope. But they are not guilty of anything except a poor birth. They are of course deport-able but it will never happen. So the rational thing to do is legalize and assimilate the group. Deal with their citizenship down the road after the greatest part of the illegal population has been dealt with.
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Sorry...not the way it works.

Nothing unconstitutional about Congress trying to repeal the ACA a million times.

But Obama did not have the constitutional authority to unilaterally write immigration law.

Obama tried to do an end run around the Constitution and it ended up biting you guys in the ass.

You want DACA?

Go through Congress the way you should have in the first place....but now you'll have to give something to get it.

Look up how reconciliation works. You obviously are lacking knowledge about that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconc...tates_Congress)
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Meh.......


Unlike some people, I would rather my party not vote according to the hive mind group think.

The fact that the right doesn't vote in lockstep just means they aren't all as the Left likes to stereotype them on every issue.

I don't know about you.....but to me that's a good thing.
Good one!
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:53 PM
 
Location: On the Beach
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Libs and Dems how did it feel that your political party puts criminal illegals before
you and your family as a law abiding citizens?

DACA dreamers comes before you.
Not you abiding by the law and being an USA citizen.
ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC, thank you so much for asking! Just hope the democrats in the Senate hold out as long as it takes to resolve DACA once and for all.
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