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Why do you right wingers seem to be so happy at the prospect of EU disintegration? You guys were practically throwing parties over Brexit. What’s that all about?
We like decentralization; aka self-government. You want me to tell you what to do? Or would you prefer to decide for yourself? Surely, you understand the principle.
Why do you right wingers seem to be so happy at the prospect of EU disintegration? You guys were practically throwing parties over Brexit. What’s that all about?
That’s like Canada deciding that they don’t wanna belong to NAFTA anymore, and right wing Europeans celebrating because of it. Of course, Europeans WOULDN’T celebrate it, because they wouldn’t give a damn one way or another.
But you Conservatives are giddy at the prospect of the EU failing for some strange reason. Weird.
It's an entity of the globalists, just like the African Union. Of course, the one I want gone most of all is the Evil Empire, the United Nations. It and all the Rothchildes and Rockefellers and Bilderbergs running it.
It doesn't mean that it should be imposed on people whether British or French without a democratic national vote rather than on the mere say so of the political classes, and it is interesting to note that when Americans criticise us for leaving an organisation they would never ever consider joining, indeed their laws would prohibit them from joining such an organisation in the first place. Can you imagine the idea that the US Supreme Court being overruled by a Nafta Court based in Mexico.
I would not have thought that average Americans many of whom don't even like the UN or Congress (and Washington DC) never mind the EU would show any support for the very undemocratic centralised EU, especially given Americas history of fighting for liberty and freedom, and it's fierce protection of that very liberty and freedom. Whilst in Terms of Europe many tyrants including Napoleon Bonaparte and Adolf Hitler have had dreams of conquering Europe and uniting it, and most of Britains famous battles and memorials such as Waterloo and Trafalgar are in relation to our efforts against such evil dictators.
The US would never be ruled over by foreign courts that could overrule it's constitution and make decisions regarding trade, borders, immigration etc, nor would the US ever give up the dollar or be ruled over by a foreign parliament or replace the stars and stripes with a Nafta flag.
In terms of free trade, it is the one area which we did support and wish to maintain as far as possible, however been ruled over by an unelected commission and a foreign parliament is a lot different to just being part of a free trade organisation like Nafta, which the US is even contemplating leaving.
I and the average American conservative don't support the EU. I also agree with you that the European wars weren't about nationalism but imperialism. DesertDetroiter isn't a conservative or all that pro-American or even pro-Europe really.
The Europeans came up with this “United States of Europe” concept for a reason.
Pictures of post WW2 Europe pretty much explains the reason.
No. You have it perfectly backward.
Pictures of WW1 (killing of soldiers by soldiers of other states) could be used to support the concept of a united European polity. Pictures of WW2 (killing of people by their own rulers) tell us we should support the opposite ideal.
Pictures of WW1 (killing of soldiers by soldiers of other states) could be used to support the concept of a united European polity. Pictures of WW2 (killing of people by their own rulers) tell us we should support the opposite ideal.
Hmmm, it is called WW2 for a reason, and what you listed is not the reason.
Good question- I was kinda wondering that myself.
I just think SO many want ANY country that isn't as warped as America is, to fail. That way they can all gloat about how "are socialism can't work, only the way America does things can succeed" many feel threatened by countries that thrive without social Darwinism.
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We like decentralization; aka self-government. You want me to tell you what to do? Or would you prefer to decide for yourself? Surely, you understand the principle.
You should like decentralization....but for YOU.
What the Europeans want is their concern.
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It's an entity of the globalists, just like the African Union. Of course, the one I want gone most of all is the Evil Empire, the United Nations. It and all the Rothchildes and Rockefellers and Bilderbergs running it.
Yeah, well we need to worry about electing a congress that functions and isn’t bought and paid for first.
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I and the average American conservative don't support the EU. I also agree with you that the European wars weren't about nationalism but imperialism. DesertDetroiter isn't a conservative or all that pro-American or even pro-Europe really.
You CAN’T support the EU anyway because you’re an American. You have nothing to do with it. Only Europeans can “support” it. You can however, wish for its downfall. Why you’d do so makes zero sense.
And no, I’m not pro European. Why? Because I’m not European or of European descent.
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Pictures of WW1 (killing of soldiers by soldiers of other states) could be used to support the concept of a united European polity. Pictures of WW2 (killing of people by their own rulers) tell us we should support the opposite ideal.
This is Europe’s business. There’s nothing for you to support. They know better what’s good for them than you do.
Your own country is horribly broken. Concentrate on that before telling the Europeans what they should be doing.
The surrender of sovereignty in whole or part usually only comes to nations after a country has been invaded and or defeated militarily. Something the French and France is all to familiar with given the history of past one hundred years or so.
Yet they know how to remain a liberal, tolerant and most diverse society.
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