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You are very much mistaken. The people can use their votes to bring about a constitutional convention and as happened the last time that convention could fully wipe out the system in place.
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Why not. I want to leave my kids money as a gift instead of spending it. My money, my choice what to do with it.
That "fortune" gets invested into the stock-market or private business where it grows the economy. The real question why do you think you're entitled to some of that money? What did you do to earn it, exactly? Not only do you want to steal from me, you want to steal from my kids as well.
The government created the money and can decide where it goes. I'm under no obligation to respect your right to accumulate the world's wealth when I go to vote.
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Supply and demand! It's the nature of the universe. Want high wages, then start with deporting the 10-30 million illegals in this county.
By "denied access", you mean they can't afford it. In the tribal utopia you referred to earlier they didn't have medical care either.
There's next to no illegals where I live and wages are still absurdly low in a high cost of living area. So peddle your silly right wing theories somewhere else because I'm not buying it. Businesses would still be paying people a dollar a day if they were legally allowed to.
They had the medical care they had technology for. 200 years ago Americans and Europeans were using leaches and bleeding to try to "balance the humors." Medical technology has advanced a lot in the past century and there's no reason we should tolerate it being rationed based on accumulation of rectangular pieces of paper (money).
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You have the right to ask for charity, but you DO NOT have the right to put your hands into others pockets. Maybe less soda and more manual labor would go a long way to improve their health. God forbid they take responsibility for their own predicament.
The government has every right to tax rich bums so others aren't dying in the streets. Obviously you have zero morals and zero respect for your fellow humans but some of us do.
And the more global we get, the more legitimate wealth that 1% will have.
I might add that if we did not have so many dysfunction despotic governments, keeping their nations people in poverty, then some of the wealthy would not have such a high percentage of the world's wealth.
Even nation like Russia, allow Putin to steal from them, until he is worth is $70 freaking billion. Then we have dictators like Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe, worth $20 billion, and Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khomenei, who is worth $90 billion.
In my world there's nothing stopping you from buying a house with other like minded people who have saved $25K+ each.
Don't have $25K? Rent a cheap room, invest until you do. But as a former LL, be ready to deal with a bunch of dead beats who will **** you over and use you whenever they "don't have money".
As soon as your room mates find out you have savings, they will expect you to cover their part of the rent. Just like you expect the 1% to pay for your housing and health care. Don't worry though, they will pay you back! Promise!
There's the rub - I have confidence in MY ability to pay my share into a housing pool but I don't have confidence in other people to pay their share.
Also, buying a house with multiple owners makes the financing harder because everyone involved has to meet all lender requirements.
I'm already renting a cheap tiny room but it still consumes half my income.
Yes they do. It's that exact attitude that keeps people poor. Poor people spend their money on drugs, alcohol and gambling, more so than the rich. And the rich, unlike the poor, can actually afford it.
Let me repost what you responded to:
People being paid wages that aren't even enough to live on don't have the luxury of spending less than they do.
So someone making minimum wage, which is not enough to pay for housing, food, clothing, and healthcare, is going to somehow save their money? How do you propose that? If you assert all these poor people are poor because they're using their money for booze and drugs, how about you provide some evidence because your opinion isn't worth much.
In 2011 I did not pay any Federal Income tax because I didn't have to. I didn't make enough money. In 2011 General Electric not only did not pay any Federal Income Tax but they were given $6M by the U.S. govt because their Tax Attorneys filed one of the longest tax returns ever seen until that time. It showed that GE was so hard done to that they were at deaths door financially and needed the money pronto in order not to bring the rest of the country down in a crashing heap. Yes, that is SMART but you way overstate things when you assert that all wealthy are paying for the poor. Many are not.
So you have a few examples of the upper middle class (who pay slightly more than their fair share of federal income tax) subsidizing a company or two, (to avoid economic disaster)
What exactly does that have to do with the poor (who pay NO federal income tax) paying for the rich again?
Rich individuals pay massive amounts of tax (millions) but what do they get in return, exactly? Nothing! A good chunk of that money goes to pay for the poor. But yet someone they are vilified as stealing from the poor. It's doesn't get more convoluted and ungrateful than that.
What exactly does that have to do with the poor (who pay NO federal income tax) paying for the rich again?
By being deprived of their fair share of the planets resources with a rigged game.
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[/b]Rich individuals pay massive amounts of tax (millions) but what do they get in return, exactly? Nothing! A good chunk of that money goes to pay for the poor. But yet someone they are vilified as stealing from the poor. It's doesn't get more convoluted and ungrateful than that.
A government that protects their claims to private property which has enriched them, the very money you measure your wealth in is created by the government, etc. Take away the government whose taxes you hate and where do you get money and who will protect you from the first person who fancies your belongings?
Yeah but if you redistributed all the world's wealth evenly everyone would still be poor.
Everyone knows what would happen a few years later. The cycle would start all over.
The poor would be poor again, and the money-makers would be rich again.
People being paid wages that aren't even enough to live on don't have the luxury of spending less than they do.
So someone making minimum wage, which is not enough to pay for housing, food, clothing, and healthcare, is going to somehow save their money? How do you propose that? If you assert all these poor people are poor because they're using their money for booze and drugs, how about you provide some evidence because your opinion isn't worth much.
It's not my opinion, it's a fact. Here's a few links, but feel free to google for yourself. Or go to your local ghetto and see all the residents. They are all sober, exercising and studying to get ahead. Impossible to find drugs and Oh wait....
By being deprived of their fair share of the planets resources with a rigged game.
So you're proposing that just by being born, you're entitled to 1/5,000,000,000th of the worlds resources.
Looks to me like you're doing a LOT better than that if you're born in the USA.
Please explain how things are rigged?
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A government that protects their claims to private property which has enriched them, the very money you measure your wealth in is created by the government, etc. Take away the government whose taxes you hate and where do you get money and who will protect you from the first person who fancies your belongings?
The government does nothing to protect your wealth in most cases. A poor person burns down your $1M house and you don't have insurance, how do you think you're going to get your money. You don't.
Can't get blood out of a stone and the government isn't going to pay for my smoldering house, so again, exactly how am I being protected by the government?
Every heard of squatters rights? How is that the government protecting private property, exactly?
The government does nothing to protect your wealth in most cases. A poor person burns down your $1M house and you don't have insurance, how do you think you're going to get your money. You don't.
Can't get blood out of a stone and the government isn't going to pay for my smoldering house, so again, exactly how am I being protected by the government?
Every heard of squatters rights? How is that the government protecting private property, exactly?
But the arsonist will go to prison if caught and the government will look for them. You have regular police patrols likely. Do you know how things work in, let's say, Somalia, if locals see someone has a bunch of money and a big house? Squatters rights take 20 years here to work. If you can't check on your property once every 20 years it must not mean much to you.
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