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Old 01-22-2018, 03:58 PM
 
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Enjoyable article about Trump fuming over the shutdown; for people too lazy to read the article, some short excerpts. Funny, Trump's idea of a celebratory party is to charge guests $100,000. Also funny, I'll bet he doesn't even know what "neophyte" means.


After Vowing to Fix Washington, Trump Is Mired in a Familiar Crisis
By Julie Hirschfeld Davis and Maggie Haberman

Inside the White House, Mr. Trump, the neophyte president who has styled himself the ultimate dealmaker, remained remarkably disengaged from the complex process of hammering out a politically palatable deal that could provide a way out of the morass...

On Saturday, though, Mr. Schumer said that even members of the president’s party had by now recognized that Mr. Trump was ill equipped to strike a political compromise. “What’s even more frustrating than President Trump’s intransigence is the way he seems amenable to these compromises before completely switching positions and backing off,” he said on the Senate floor. “Negotiating with President Trump is like negotiating with Jell-O.”

On Saturday, the president was left alternately defiant and angry, self-pitying and frustrated. He argued to aides that he did not deserve the blame he was taking, but without a credible deal on the table, there was little for him to do. Irritated to have missed his big event in Florida, Mr. Trump spent much of his day watching old TV clips of him berating President Barack Obama for a lack of leadership during the 2013 government shutdown...


For the whole article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/20/u...-shutdown.html
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:35 PM
 
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...On Saturday, though, Mr. Schumer said that even members of the president’s party had by now recognized that Mr. Trump was ill equipped to strike a political compromise. “What’s even more frustrating than President Trump’s intransigence is the way he seems amenable to these compromises before completely switching positions and backing off,” he said on the Senate floor. “Negotiating with President Trump is like negotiating with Jell-O.”...
In three weeks now, Trump will have the advantage, all thanks to the Democratic leadership in the Senate who's backbones are made of the same stuff...
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:37 PM
 
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Trump always wins, today is another good example.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:38 PM
 
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Translation from Dem speak to common sense English, Schumer, a career politician has never had to actually negotiate with anyone outside of the government and therefore has no idea what it is like.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Trump always wins, today is another good example.
TDS is spreading. Some folks should have skipped the flu shot this year and went with a TDS vaccine.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:50 PM
 
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Healthy President Trump is kryptonite to Dems.
The effects of exposure is showing as they act like children and lose control of their political body functions.
Clean-up needed in DNC daycare Todays news and stories on Trump read like children's books.

Trump's policy beats them down while all they have is personal attacks and liberal media runs with every childish story they can produce.

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Old 01-22-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Translation from Dem speak to common sense English, Schumer, a career politician has never had to actually negotiate with anyone outside of the government and therefore has no idea what it is like.
THAT^^^ is really the crux of the matter. Schumer found out that Trump was more than willing to call his bluff. He also knew he was overplaying his hand. His base has become so aggressively progressive that nothing he could have done would have been enough.

While the Dems cry how the Pubs control all the branches, it became painfully obvious that that is a lie. The Dems cried wolf while trying to play the wolf, then proceeded to get eaten by the wolf.

It's really hilarious, to the rest of the world who are looking in at all of these keystoner cops pretending to be politically wise.

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Healthy President Trump is kryptonite to Dems.
The effects of exposure is showing as they act like children and lose control of their political body functions.
Clean-up needed in DNC daycare Todays news and stories on Trump read like children's books.

Trump's policy beats them down while all they have is personal attacks and liberal media runs with every childish story they can produce.
The progressives were living in a daydream for 8 years. Now reality has come back to town and they haven't a clue how to deal with it.

One thing that I didn't expect was for MSNBC and CNN to both be honest enough to call out Schumer as the architect of the shutdown.

I thought if was daft of Schumer to believe that just because he called it "Trumps Shutdown" that it would make it so. It was pathetic and THAT blew up in their faces as well.
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:03 PM
 
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Enjoyable article about Trump fuming over the shutdown; for people too lazy to read the article, some short excerpts.
You know what's more enjoyable? Trump totally kicked Democrat azz today. Even WaPo had to admit it. Maybe the amusing NYT will talk about it too.
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:06 PM
 
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Translation from Dem speak to common sense English, Schumer, a career politician has never had to actually negotiate with anyone outside of the government and therefore has no idea what it is like.


I think it would be more accurate to say that Schumer - and his GOP counterparts as well - are used to negotiating with experienced, informed people who try to move toward a common goal. You're probably right that Schumer may not ever had had to deal with an ignorant, unstable, floundering, petulant, inexperienced person like Trump.


By the way, did you actually read the article?
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:16 PM
 
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I think it would be more accurate to say that Schumer - and his GOP counterparts as well - are used to negotiating with experienced, informed people who try to move toward a common goal. You're probably right that Schumer may not ever had had to deal with an ignorant, unstable, floundering, petulant, inexperienced person like Trump.


By the way, did you actually read the article?
“Negotiating with President Trump is like negotiating with Jell-O.” This is the only part of the post that is necessary. Schumer has lived in his government bubble for so long, he has no idea how to deal with this challenge.
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