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Old 01-23-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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Big deal, it's time for a President to stand for the American worker instead of rich fat cat Globalists.

I'm fine China taking a bigger share of the world's burden and us less.
pretty sauce Tall, you are saying "big deal" that tens of thousands of US jobs will be lost. you are saying "big deal" that we could see china put tariffs of the 60 million tonnes of pork we ship to China each year.

You are saying who cares about fly over farmers.... i guess you don't i guess you don't care about farmers who can barely make it even with premium price sales to china...


remember china does not "need" our food, they buy it because of our FEDERAL REGULATIONS AND OVERSIGHTS, that ensure clean safe food..... yet another thing Trump wants to break...

but I guess "big deal"..
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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America would be a Socialist Nation today if Obama had his way and Hillary became the Dictator, and China would be the leading importer of "Clean Energy" because Hillary would have been "For Sale."


Go ahead and write some "Truths" and include the Clintons and Obama when you focus on "Greed" and the crooked deals with Russia with Uranium sales and the robbing of money that was supposed to go for disaster relief in Haiti by the Clintons and their Cronies. Looking forward to it.

learn something first before you start using words you don't understand.

EVERY NATION IS A FORM OF SOCIALIST SYSTEM..

America happens to be one too... with a Democratic Process that functions through a Representative Structure organized as a Republic,(a form of government in which the country is considered a "public matter") with a Monetary System that is based on Capitalism... which it utilizes in the creation of a Free Market, and a Free Market Exist ONLY through and by the Respect of Regulatory Governance.

You probably need to learn the history and tragedies within that history of Haiti, which is likely more than you can digest with respect for Haitians and see the historical assault it has suffered under. Then you might realize, Haiti has a government, which Aid must work in accord with, as well as along with Humanitarian programs. So.. making comments based on some imbecilic right wing spin, were people "start feeling butt ticked" every time they hear the word Clinton, and get ready to back up to a stump... waiting on some other Republicans to come and provide them servicing.

therefore... spread that garbage some other place among right winger who lap it up.

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Old 01-23-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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Nobody has mentioned washing machines. 20% and 50% tariff on washing machines. I wonder what's next.

After decades of preaching free trade, and bankrupting local industries abroad, now they care about national interest. But when it is europe or the u.s. dumping their stuff on the rest of the world that is fine.
the washing machines seem to be from South Korea, SK does have import tariffs from 10 to 20% but they apply to ALL IMPORTED durable goods.


TPP would have provided the platform to deal with the SK part of this..... hmmm a group of 12 nations where trade interests could be managed without resorting to tit for tat tariffs....
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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learn something first before you start using words you don't understand.

EVERY NATION IS A FORM OF SOCIALIST SYSTEM..

America happens to be one too... with a Democratic Process that functions through a Representative Structure organized as a Republic,(a form of government in which the country is considered a "public matter") with a Monetary System that is based on Capitalism... which it utilizes in the creation of a Free Market, and a Free Market Exist ONLY through and by the Respect of Regulatory Governance.

You probably need to learn the history and tragedies within that history of Haiti, which is likely more than you can digest with respect for Haitians and see the historical assault it has suffered under. Then you might realize, Haiti has a government, which Aid must work in accord with, as well as along with Humanitarian programs. So.. making comments based on some imbecilic right wing spin, were people "start feeling butt ticked" every time they hear the word Clinton, and get read to back up to a stump... waiting on the some other Republicans to come and provide them servicing.

therefore... spread that garbage some other place among right winger who lap it up.

right winger posters on this site calling someone a communist or socialist , mostly are just brainwashed drones who don't even know what the words mean. And the rest are using the words as weapons to define the left in what they believe are broadly negative terms...

its an unhealthy mix of people who don't have a clue what they are saying, and those who know exactly what they are saying. funny thing is, they both end up saying pretty much the same things.

ie public healthcare is communism.... but public fire fighter service is not???? Weird AF.
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:05 AM
 
Location: USA
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Looks like Trump is damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. People will complain no matter what. I say this as someone who isn’t even a fan of Trump.
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Old 01-23-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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Thank the Executives at appliance companies like the makers at General Electric, Maytag, and all the other producers who rushed to have their units made in Foreign Country, and if it was or is assembled in America, it is then filled with nothing but "imported parts", often of the lowest grade material, to ensure its failure within a fixed time frame, to 'FORCE" the unsuspecting unaware and often uneducated and the elite who have money to waste... to go out a "repurchase a replacement unit".

The average working person in America DID NOT... COULD NOT and WOULD NOT Outsource their own jobs !!!! This was done by the GREEDY EXECUTIVES and supported by crooked politicians who'd sell their daughter and son for a campaign contribution, to help them hold a seat so they can chase means for self enrichment.

Who first had to get the IGNORANT AMONG AMERICAN'S to stand against Unions, as 'step one", and once that was done, all they needed to do was BUY politicians... that supported them outsourcing. This became the Greed Owned Republican who's sole goal and role, is to place Corporations Before People.

They are too dumb to realize, it is people that make Corporations Function, and it is People who Consume what Corporations Produce. No Corporation can sustain itself when it puts itself, before people.

Republican simply can't digest that truth, because they are groomed for 100's of years to be blinded by the lust for Greed, and to worship the Wealthy who became so, by and through Greed... and many of them have been duped to think, that being with white skin, will give them the pathway and access to become greed wealthy themselves. It's proved to be the best game in the nation as a guaranteed "Maker of Fools and Imbeciles". They become die hard devoted to self devastation and desecration of their own offspring's future, by clinging to an ignorance that has made them destitute and poor for centuries. They been led to be fools who chase racist madness, while the wealthy continue to fleece them, like someone in the Middle of Snow Season, lining up and shaving their sheep and then send them back out in the frigid temperatures.

Those who have a few dollar are once sickness away from being made to be flat broke, and they are too bigot minded and racially ignorant to even know it.
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Old 01-23-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Canada
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the washing machines seem to be from South Korea, SK does have import tariffs from 10 to 20% but they apply to ALL IMPORTED durable goods.

TPP would have provided the platform to deal with the SK part of this..... hmmm a group of 12 nations where trade interests could be managed without resorting to tit for tat tariffs....
Well actually it wouldn’t. South Korea was not one of the 12 countries in TPP.

By the way, it was announced today that the 11 countries remaining in TPP have just reached a new agreement.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tpp-...deal-1.4499616
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Old 01-23-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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China already did. We lost solar panel manufacturing jobs and gained install jobs. While consumers enjoyed lower prices.

China will now sell more of their solar panels to India and other countries.
You are wrong, India is planning to add a 70 percent tariff to all solar panels from china. I would wager any country that manufactures solar panels will place high tariffs to keep Chinese solar panels out of their country.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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You are wrong, India is planning to add a 70 percent tariff to all solar panels from china. I would wager any country that manufactures solar panels will place high tariffs to keep Chinese solar panels out of their country.
You are wrong, they are not planning on doing anything at this point. It's under consideration. A few of their largest solar manufacturers are asking for it, while others are hotly contesting it.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:14 PM
 
Location: USA
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You are wrong, India is planning to add a 70 percent tariff to all solar panels from china. I would wager any country that manufactures solar panels will place high tariffs to keep Chinese solar panels out of their country.
Yep^. China has been the Dumping Super power of the world. If we had reciprocity in trade over the years China would not be where they are at today.

They should follow the Japanese Automotive model, build in the country you sell in.
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