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Old 01-24-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Originally Posted by Ian_Lee View Post
You are assuming that every teacher is interested in gun.

I know many teachers who are female. They never hold a gun in their entire life, lest shooting.

Can we force them to hold gun and even participate in drill? I doubt it. I guess it violates their constitutional rights.
I knew that was coming.

What part of, allow. Not force. Allow... did you miss?

That's the difference between liberals and I.
Liberals want to force everyone to adopt their BS.
I want to ALLOW the right to be armed and trained to handle the threat.

Far as women go, they're on the rise for CCW permits nation wide.

 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ian_Lee View Post
You are assuming that every teacher is interested in gun.

I know many teachers who are female. They never hold a gun in their entire life, lest shooting.

Can we force them to hold gun and even participate in drill? I doubt it. I guess it violates their constitutional rights.


Just like everyone else. Owning a firearm is a choice. I don't think there would be any intention of forcing someone to carry one if they don't want to.
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:24 PM
 
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I knew that was coming.

What part of, allow. Not force. Allow... did you miss?

Cherry picking as usual.
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Cherry picking as usual.
I'm ready for the next response... I can see this one coming from a mile away...
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by Ian_Lee View Post
You are assuming that every teacher is interested in gun.

I know many teachers who are female. They never hold a gun in their entire life, lest shooting.

Can we force them to hold gun and even participate in drill? I doubt it. I guess it violates their constitutional rights.
No, the proposed programs are VOLUNTARY. Only those teachers that WANT to participate, and accept training, and the rules.
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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No, the proposed programs are VOLUNTARY. Only those teachers that WANT to participate, and accept training, and the rules.
But if the entire teachers and staff are not interested at all in carrying concealed weapons, do you mean the campus does not need to be protected?

And carrying concealed weapons is not even a Federal law. It is too far flung for this proposal.
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:32 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Originally Posted by Ian_Lee View Post
You are assuming that every teacher is interested in gun.

I know many teachers who are female. They never hold a gun in their entire life, lest shooting.

Can we force them to hold gun and even participate in drill? I doubt it. I guess it violates their constitutional rights.
I wouldn't discount all educators, there are some who are military or LE, with that said, the majority that I've come across and still do, have zero interest in that kind of training, carrying a weapon etc.. The mindset just isn't there from what I've come across. Of course there are other variables that I'm leaving out, but for the most part, they don't see themselves in that way (engaging an active shooter, terrorist, etc..).
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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The best way to protect campus security is to PAY for it.

Many High Schools are already understaffed. Many teachers are already overloaded with school works. Most parents will just wish their teachers pay more attention to the students than participating in drill at the shooting ranges.
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: PSL
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But if the entire teachers and staff are not interested at all in carrying concealed weapons, do you mean the campus does not need to be protected?

And carrying concealed weapons is not even a Federal law. It is too flung for this proposal.
Then they don't get to blat when it happens as they enabled it by not taking the measures to secure it and are held liable for providing a target rich environment with no measures to protect life liberty and pursuits of happiness.

Carrying concealed weapons is a federal law protected by the constitution and states have the rights to regulate as they see fit.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Bearing arms, means openly carrying or concealed carrying. Some states don't even issue a license or permit to carry at all. Vermont and Missouri come to mind.
They believe in constitutional carry.
 
Old 01-24-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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The best way to protect campus security to PAY for it.

Many High Schools are already understaffed. Many teachers are already overloaded with school works. Most parents will just wish their teachers pay more attention to the students than participating in drill at the shooting ranges.
No one is saying that they're going to be training every day, once a month or during staff development days, there's time, it's just getting enough teachers willing to take that time.
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