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Old 01-25-2018, 06:18 PM
 
Location: PSL
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I don't think it's so much a gun issue as it is a mental health issue. If you look at most of the shootings, these kids / people are either on, going on, coming off of, changing to another....PRESCRIPTION MED. SSRIs (and others) can cause suicidal AND homicidal ideation, especially in teens.

It's very sad that there's so many parents allowing these mind-altering meds to be prescribed to their teens who are still mentally developing.
Its easier that way.

2 Cureitall pills a video game to keep them preoccupied... Beats being a parent.
I ever have a doctor tell me my kid has ADD/ADHD I'm laughing in their face and telling them where to go and how to get there.

 
Old 01-26-2018, 07:58 AM
 
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Two more days later, and the "less guns" folks still haven't answered my simple "how do you do that" question.

Now either they are still formulating this amaze-balls theory that nobody has yet considered, or maybe, just maybe decreasing the number of guns and amount of ammunition in a country governed by 2nd/4th/5th amendment protections of their citizens is a whole lot harder and more complicated than simply chanting "LESS GUNS NAO!!"
 
Old 01-26-2018, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Canada
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A friend of mine recently came back from 2 years in London. According to him the gangs control the streets. Stabbings are a daily thing. You know it is so bad it is illegal to buy any knife there until you are 18.
Yeah there were 140 murders in London last year in a city of over nearly 9 million and with around 20 million visitors a year, totally out of control. A third of the murders are domestc disputes which can often involve knives.

As for the 18 Law they introduced that over 30 yeas ago, and in respect of possesion that law dates back to 1953.

I visit London quite often and it's one of the safest large cities in the western world.
 
Old 01-26-2018, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Yet the right thinks more guns is the answer...instead of banning them...and keeping them out of our schools...

Australia never has school shootings. Neither does the UK or Germany or Japan.
You can always move there. Cause they don't have a wall or guns or freedom of speech.
 
Old 01-26-2018, 08:38 AM
 
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Yeah there were 140 murders in London last year in a city of over nearly 9 million and with around 20 million visitors a year, totally out of control. A third of the murders are domestc disputes which can often involve knives.

As for the 18 Law they introduced that over 30 yeas ago, and in respect of possesion that law dates back to 1953.

I visit London quite often and it's one of the safest large cities in the western world.


Sounds like a utopia. Dilly for them.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/...offence-group/


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-a3137706.html
 
Old 01-26-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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Yeah there were 140 murders in London last year in a city of over nearly 9 million and with around 20 million visitors a year, totally out of control. A third of the murders are domestc disputes which can often involve knives.

As for the 18 Law they introduced that over 30 yeas ago, and in respect of possesion that law dates back to 1953.

I visit London quite often and it's one of the safest large cities in the western world.

Almost 500 attacks on people in London in one year. Yep, that would make me feel safe.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/401685...rns-sufferers/
 
Old 01-26-2018, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Two more days later, and the "less guns" folks still haven't answered my simple "how do you do that" question.

Now either they are still formulating this amaze-balls theory that nobody has yet considered, or maybe, just maybe decreasing the number of guns and amount of ammunition in a country governed by 2nd/4th/5th amendment protections of their citizens is a whole lot harder and more complicated than simply chanting "LESS GUNS NAO!!"
No matter what they say, the Left wants to ban firearms, and have the populace turn them into the "authorities". This is what happened in Australia, and the UK. The people that do not turn them in will become criminals overnight. Meanwhile the real criminals, gang bangers, drug dealers, terrorists, and psychopaths will still have guns.
 
Old 01-26-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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Almost 500 attacks on people in London in one year. Yep, that would make me feel safe.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/401685...rns-sufferers/
The UK has restricted sales of acid, increased sentencing and is looking to replace acid with alternatives in some products. The police and emergency are also now far more prepared, and special unirs have been set up.

The figures include those threatened during muggings, with a substance in a bottle, as for knife crime there were 20 youngsters stabbbed to death in London last year and five were shot. The 454 statistics according to UK Parliament also include noxious or corrosive fluids – including but not limited to acid . Furthernore if you look at hospital admissions for corrosive assault it was 109 last year, which is actually a reduction from previous years, so the numer of people treated in hospital for acid attacks was less but don't let that get in the way of a tabloid media story frenzy

Acid attacks - Parliament - PDF

In terms of serious violent crime, Chicago has a similar amount of murders as the whole of the UK, and other much smaller US cities have more murders than London.

London is a very big city, it has a population of nearly 9 million, and there are 10 million within it's beltway (M25 Ringroad), it also has around 20 million visitors and many millions of commutters vastly increase the cities population every day. So for a city of it's size it is very safe.

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Old 01-26-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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Yeah there were 140 murders in London last year in a city of over nearly 9 million and with around 20 million visitors a year, totally out of control. A third of the murders are domestc disputes which can often involve knives.

As for the 18 Law they introduced that over 30 yeas ago, and in respect of possesion that law dates back to 1953.

I visit London quite often and it's one of the safest large cities in the western world.

Let's look at Michigan. There is roughly 10 million people here. So comparable to London. In 2015 there were 571 homicides, a substantial amount more than London. Now subtract the 295 homicides in the city of Detroit ,and the 48 in Flint. That brings it down to 228. Of those homicides in those two cities, 90% or more of them were done with illegal firearms. Now here is the thing , 30% of Michigan residents legally own a firearm, 7% have concealed carry licenses, and it is legal to open carry here.


So with roughly 2.7 million people owning firearms , and roughly 800,000 people legally carrying, if firearms were a problem don't you think the homicide rates would be higher ?
 
Old 01-26-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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Let's look at Michigan. There is roughly 10 million people here. So comparable to London. In 2015 there were 571 homicides, a substantial amount more than London. Now subtract the 295 homicides in the city of Detroit ,and the 48 in Flint. That brings it down to 228. Of those homicides in those two cities, 90% or more of them were done with illegal firearms. Now here is the thing , 30% of Michigan residents legally own a firearm, 7% have concealed carry licenses, and it is legal to open carry here.


So with roughly 2.7 million people owning firearms , and roughly 800,000 people legally carrying, if firearms were a problem don't you think the homicide rates would be higher ?
There were around 600 homicides in the whole of the UK in 2015, so Michigan had a similar homicide number to the UK with a population of 65 million.

In terms of Acid Attacks they were prevalent in Victorian Britain and acid was often used by criminals and gangs, indeed in Graham Greene's 1938 novel Brighton Rock Pinkie Brown carries around a bottle of acid for protection, the novel was later made in to a 1948 film starring Richard Attenborough as Pinkie Brown and was later remade again in 2010.

The truth being that London today is very safe by historic standards, and although the city is dealing with issues through new legislation and sentecing guidelines, it is still enjoying a very low serious violent crime rate at a time when the cities population has grown by nearly one third in recent decades.

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As the 19th century wore on, the crime developed a name: vitriolage. Despoliation prompted by jealousy and rejection was often the motive. Women threw it at other women, men at men, men at women, and women at men. It was common enough, as late as 1938, for Graham Greene to have his sinister protagonist Pinkie carry a small bottle of acid in Brighton Rock. (“He took the cork out and spilled a little on the wooden plank of the pier; it hissed like steam.”) Only later in the last century did the crime begin to be associated with the developing rather than the developed rather than the developed world, as a function of male oppression and feudalism, rather than the green-eyed cruelty of richer societies.

Acid attacks were a stain on Victorian Britain. Now they are returning

Acid attacks have a long history in Britain - New fears, old menace

Acid attacks have been happening in the UK for 200 years, so why are we only talking about them now? | The Independent

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